It has been a while since I have been on the forums, but I figure I would show you my luck for 2007. Both of these are in Utah. The bull, of course, was a special draw. But the deer was the general rifle hunt. I took him the second day of the hunt. He beds (well, used to) within 250 yards of a hunting camp that had over a dozen RVs and campers on the opener. Both the deer and the elk were 6x7.