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until the Utah White-tailed Ptarmigan Hunt opener. I don't know if I can wait.

Where's everybody going this year? I don't need any GPS coordinates, just the drainage is enough...uh..and...which side of the drainage would be helpful.

WTP - the hunt dreams are made of;
it's free,
over the counter tags,
long season,
you can shoot bucks or does,
ya pretty much got the whole place to yourself,
no ATV noise,
small taxidermy bill,
you only have to keep half the meat so they're easy to pack to the road,
if you get tired of walking, just fish.

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118 mo days!

LE Tooele ptarm tag?
 

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Never hunted Ptarmigans before. I see that old gal on "Life below Zero" poppin 'em with her .22 all the time. Are they as dimwitted as all the other grouse family? Also, do they go into "rut", and do ya hunt 'em like elk? Do they follow the snow line up? Do you think we need a LE season on them so we can have a quality hunt and get some trophy sized one's out there? And last but not least, what do they taste like? Just askin.
 

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WTP numbers?

What is the ptarmigan population like in Utah? I have never hunted them before.
Good question and I don't know if anyone person has the answer. The answer is most likely the sum of individual observations from hunters, fisherman, non-consumptive hikers, the DWR and birdwatchers. The elusive birds live in some pretty inhospitable country at the very tops of the drainages where few people get to.

I was always told that Utah white-tailed ptarmigan were "at carrying capacity" but by all accounts (anecdotal and observations with supporting photographs) the birds are expanding and have been found in nearly every major drainage in the High Uintas from the Ashley to the Weber.

Here's a good article from the DWR, albeit a little outdated:
http://wildlife.utah.gov/uplandgame/ptarmigan/uinta_wt.php

Locally renown ptarmigan expert Andrew ****** says Utah white-tailed ptarmigan are "everywhere, but nowhere" :)

I call them "the morels of the mountains":

  • They are a prized possession.
  • Very difficult to find at first.
  • Once you find them you can go back to the same place, same time, every year and find them again.
  • No one's going to tell you where they found them.
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Never hunted Ptarmigans before. I see that old gal on "Life below Zero" poppin 'em with her .22 all the time. Are they as dimwitted as all the other grouse family? Also, do they go into "rut", and do ya hunt 'em like elk? Do they follow the snow line up? Do you think we need a LE season on them so we can have a quality hunt and get some trophy sized one's out there? And last but not least, what do they taste like? Just askin.
Great questions! All the answers can be found right here on the UWN. Just use the UWN search engine. Uh...remember it starts with a "p", not a "t" when you type it in the search box. :)

As far as the LE question goes; "No" There's no need for an LE season on game animals that can not be accessed with an ATV.

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Ok..I'll throw a bone out .....here's some info from 2014 WTP harvest survey. Some might call this "hot spotting" but Tooele is a pretty big area...

 

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Are they as dimwitted as all the other grouse family?
Grouse are not dimwitted. They have adapted to protect themselves from birds of prey. They just do not see humans as predators. They are more likely to be eaten by a raptor, than a human in the mountains, plains, or sage. Camouflage and minimal movement in the open are their tools for staying alive.

Flying is only an option for escape from a land predator, but is not used unless it is necessary. A lot of times they will hold until the last second to let the predator walk past them. There is no need to give away your position to a bird of prey if you didn't have too. They also are not as stinky as chukars or pheasants, so there is a chance a coyote or fox could walk right past them without picking up the scent.

Humans do not prey grouse as much as raptors do, thus grouse are not worried about humans. It is a bigger advantage for the grouse to be more afraid of what will kill it more often than something that really only hunts it 60 days a year.

As far as Ptarmy, I think I might give it a go this year. At worst at least hook a few brookies in the process.

Goob, have you ever hunted Himalayan Snow **** on Nevada?
 

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Some years back I go to the local fancy-dancy big chain hunting and fishing store for a Utah ptarmigan tag.

I ask the guy behind the license counter "I need a non-resident white-tailed ptarmigan tag."
He says "a what?"
"a white-tailed ptarmigan tag" I said
"a what?"
"a white-tailed ptarmigan tag"
The clerk says "What's a white-tailed tarma, tarmig...a what?"

"A small grouse, turns pure white in the winter"
"We don't have those........uh...Are you kidding me?"
"No, ptarmigan, p-t-a-r-m-i-g-a-n, I've been hunting them in Utah for years"
"We don't have 'em"
"Yeah, just bring up the upland game page on your computer and type in 'ptarmigan' It starts with a 'p'" I assured the grumpy SOB.
Again "What?"

The guy can't find ptarmigan on the computer. I'm sure he's not spelling it correctly.

"Hey, do you have a Utah Upland Game Hunting Guide?" I ask
Yes...excuse me, let me wait on this other customer. Can I help you sir?

10 minutes later:
"Could you look up white-tailed ptarmigan in the Utah bird hunting guide?" I ask the guy again.
Look up what?
"White-tailed ptarmigan; a non-resident white-tailed ptarmigan hunting license. They're free."
"We don't have them"

So I get the Utah Upland Bird Hunting Guide out and show the licensing "expert" the picture of the ptarmigan and he says:
"Nope, we don't have em. Excuse me, it's my lunch break"

I got a ptarmigan license online.

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Ok..I'll throw a bone out .....here's some info from 2014 WTP harvest survey. Some might call this "hot spotting" but Tooele is a pretty big area...

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Goob, have you ever hunted Himalayan Snow **** on Nevada?
testing, testing, 1-2-3

Testing the UWN word filter.

This is a test and only a test.

snow****

snow ****

**** pheasant

cedar peter

dick

Dick

You can prick your finger but you can't finger your ****



Must be a Canadian thing.

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Goob, have you ever hunted Himalayan Snow **** on Nevada?
No, but they're on my list. I need to go before I get old and fat and out of shape.

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So help a guy out... I thought they were only found above the timber line in the Unita Mountains? Are they really out in Tooele county somewhere? I am intrigued by the idea of hiking through the Unitas to find them anyway, but confused by this Tooele talk.
 

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testing, testing, 1-2-3

Testing the UWN word filter.

This is a test and only a test.

snow****

snow ****

**** pheasant

cedar peter

dick

Dick

You can prick your finger but you can't finger your ****



Must be a Canadian thing.
This gets my vote for best post of 2016!

..so far.
 

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116 days left till the opener.

No "waiting for the CC hits" thingie with Utah ptarmigan. No bonus points needed.

Just amazing, the tags are free....uh..but not on sale yet. Now I'm mad.

Hey, where's everybody going this year?

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Don't forget you need a white-tailed ptarmigan in order to complete your Ultimate Utah Upland Game Slam (UUUGS)


The DWR says: When you harvest game animals for a slam, take a picture of yourself with both your slam card and harvested animals visible. Snap shots on a phone, etc. are sufficient; there is no need to print the photos to redeem your slam.

115.5 more days left.

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