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Is a 22 too small for coyote hunting? I know I am a bigger is better type guy, but just wanted to know what you guys think.
.22 too small
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Looking back, I've probably killed as many coyotes with my .22 pistol as I have with any other gun I own. It's not that I set out with a .22 pistol to use as a coyote gun, it was just what I had handy when I seen one. I think if you set out speciffically targeting coyotes, you'll be a lot more successful with a little more gun.
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We're talking centerfire .22 cal's, right? No, not too small at all. :wink:
Just because you "can" do something, doesn't mean it's a good way to go about accomplishing whatever it is you've set out to do. Hypothetically speaking, of course. You "can" kill a coyote with a well placed air gun pellet, but you're chances of doing so will greatly increase if you use a better suited weapon.
Just because you "can" do something, doesn't mean it's a good way to go about accomplishing whatever it is you've set out to do. Hypothetically speaking, of course. You "can" kill a coyote with a well placed air gun pellet, but you're chances of doing so will greatly increase if you use a better suited weapon.
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They'll do to about 100yrds. But after that they won't be very effective. I have a 22-250, they're great for long range.
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Personally, I don't even like shooting pot guts and such with a .22LR at distance approaching 100 yards. That's why the good lord gave us the .22WMR and .17HMR! :wink: To say nothing of the centerfire varmint rounds... Anyway you slice it, unless you're offing a coyote you've found on your trap line, up close and personal like, it is a poor choice for a coyote gun.
At distances approaching 100 yards, most bullets fired from a standard, stock .22LR rifle are going to be dropping like a sack of potatoes and likely to the left or right of where you'd hoped it would go. I don't know off hand what the energy loss would be, but I'll bet it's pretty substantial. There are a lot better ways to go for this sort of thing.
At distances approaching 100 yards, most bullets fired from a standard, stock .22LR rifle are going to be dropping like a sack of potatoes and likely to the left or right of where you'd hoped it would go. I don't know off hand what the energy loss would be, but I'll bet it's pretty substantial. There are a lot better ways to go for this sort of thing.
to quote scattergunnerer
a .22 is for potguts and kids in hunters safety.
i'll even say that a .17HMR is to small for the average coyote shot. yes it might provide a 1 shot kill 25% of the time but thats not good enough.
i've dispatched quite a few yotes on my trap line with my .22 ruger mkII. at a distance of less than 10 feet. one shot to the back of the head does the trick. but a dog at 100 yards? no way!
with so many good coyote rifle choices why would you even want to use a .22?
amen!
a .22 is for potguts and kids in hunters safety.
i'll even say that a .17HMR is to small for the average coyote shot. yes it might provide a 1 shot kill 25% of the time but thats not good enough.
i've dispatched quite a few yotes on my trap line with my .22 ruger mkII. at a distance of less than 10 feet. one shot to the back of the head does the trick. but a dog at 100 yards? no way!
with so many good coyote rifle choices why would you even want to use a .22?
I have a .22 mag that I carry coyote calling, when I am accompanied by my buddy shooting something more substantial. I wouldn't carry it if I were calling by myself. The coyotes that I have shot with the .22 mag have been within 70 yards (usually less). If it is further than that, I allow my friend the shot. Less than that, he usually allows me to shoot first. When I go by myself, I carry a 22-250, or a 25-06.
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I'm with Rifle666. Only on a trap line! Even nasty old coyotes deserve an ethical side.
Hey Fatbass, in answer to your chumming question, I took my two boys fishing in the gulf of Calif. several years ago, off the coast of San Felipe. My youngest son got sick. He would fish for a while, throw up over the side, rest for a while, and go back to fishing. He caught most of the fish! We were fishing for corbina. I did hook a biggy, that broke my twenty pound test line, even with the drag set. Still, we brought home a cooler full of fine tasting fish. I am not sure what corbina (corvina?) is in English. Very similar in size and shape to red fish.
Sorry, not looking to highjack the post, so he's my point of view on the .22. I was out grouse hunting, and had a yote come in to me. I hit that sucker twice with the 12 gauge, rolled it, and knocked it down. It still got up and ran away. I say no on the .22, unless you are looking to kill it only and not retreive the pelt. Then the .22 will probably do the job, but not necessarily immediately. Most likely it would run off somewhere and die. I think a bit higher caliber would be more humane.
Sorry, not looking to highjack the post, so he's my point of view on the .22. I was out grouse hunting, and had a yote come in to me. I hit that sucker twice with the 12 gauge, rolled it, and knocked it down. It still got up and ran away. I say no on the .22, unless you are looking to kill it only and not retreive the pelt. Then the .22 will probably do the job, but not necessarily immediately. Most likely it would run off somewhere and die. I think a bit higher caliber would be more humane.
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Lets stir the pot even more then... If a guy were to have only one gun for coyotes/varmits, what caliber would you choose, and why?
You got it right. Corbina is the English name too. They're part of the croaker family. My dad has a weak stomach too, and used that to his advantage. We were on a boat off the Farallones and they had contests far who caught the first, most, and biggest fish. My old man won all three prizes, even though he spent most of the trip throwing up over the side.dunn_gary said:
Back to the actual topic:
One of the centerfire .22s. If I were buying just factory ammo, then the .223. Even with the shortage right now, it is still cheaper and usually has more offerings than other cartridges. If reloading is added to the equation, then I would pick the .22-250 because the costs for loading either one would be pretty close to the same and the .22-250 has that extra umph to it.Huckleberry said:
for only one yote/varmint gun.
i'd stay with my .223, because i love it, lots of reloading options, tons of factory ammo,accurate
but.... i have been cheating on my beloved .223 with my newly scoped .25 WSSM, i finally got my VXIII on it and i am loving it more every time i shoot it.
downside. ammo. check out prices on .25 WSSM ammo, it is refrickindickulous! 27.99 for a box of 20!
reloading is still spendy but worth it.
so my vote still goes to the .223
i'd stay with my .223, because i love it, lots of reloading options, tons of factory ammo,accurate
but.... i have been cheating on my beloved .223 with my newly scoped .25 WSSM, i finally got my VXIII on it and i am loving it more every time i shoot it.
downside. ammo. check out prices on .25 WSSM ammo, it is refrickindickulous! 27.99 for a box of 20!
reloading is still spendy but worth it.
so my vote still goes to the .223
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204Ruger, period, The End.
OK, since the pot has been stirred, I will chime in on the "one gun" question. If I were going primarily for small varmints and secondarily for yotes, I would stick with the .223 for several reasons. The main reason is that it is so much cheaper to shoot than the -250 or WSSMs. Even reloading, the .223 is probably the cheapest of the popular rounds out there to load for. I would venture to say it is about 15% cheaper to reload for than the .22-250 even though the bullets and primers are the same. The real savings is in the powder, shooting around 20-25 grains powder in the .223 vs 35-40 grains in the -250. Sure, the -250 will give you an extra 50-75 yards, but how often are you going to be shooting a coyote at that kind of distance and really have much chance of hitting it?
If I were primarily going for yotes and secondarily going for the smaller varmints, I would opt for the 6mm Remington or the .25-06. They are a little heavier and pricier to shoot, but will give you better knockdown power out at the longer ranges and can also double as a decent deer gun.
If I were primarily going for yotes and secondarily going for the smaller varmints, I would opt for the 6mm Remington or the .25-06. They are a little heavier and pricier to shoot, but will give you better knockdown power out at the longer ranges and can also double as a decent deer gun.
Ok what if I want to hunt varmints for the first time and I am not sure if I am going to have fun or be productive and the only guns I have are... 22.LR Pistol (walther p22) 22.LR Marlin (bolt action) 380 pistol (bersa) 12 gauge pump action shot gun (mossberg) or a 30-06 (model 700)? My Marlin can hit two liter bottles at a hundred yards, and my 30-06 has a scope that enables me to accurately hit a deer in the vitals at about 200 yards. Which of these weapons would you take if you intend to skin your quarry?
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