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300win mag or 300 RUM?

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so, as I'm deep into my 270WSM project and waiting on this part and that part to arrive, I cant help but think of which gun to get next. I am going to get another one once I complete my project. I probably won't get as involved on it. Probably a custom stock w/glass bedding and trigger with a muzzle break and a nice scope. I want another 30cal rifle. I already have a 30-06 so I want to get something with a little more kick to it.

I'm thinking a 300 win mag or a 300 RUM. Honestly I don't know the difference between the 2 and would probably lean more towards the 300 win mag.
Does one have any advantages over the other. Are one of the 2 more easy to reload with? things like that

Any advise?? thoughts? opinions?

I even thought about getting a 338 lapua but, if I did that I would go full custom.
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I would go .300 win mag myself. I have one and I love it. just for ammo price and availability alone. .300 rum is probably flatter shooting and would make a devastating elk round at long range with 200 gr partitions but it probably only has 300 fps on the win mag. recoil and rifle weight would be heavier in rum though.
that said the win mag only has that much velocity on the 06. so I guess if you already have 06 the rum would be the step up that would make getting another .30 cal worth it. but ammo will cost you
I'd go with the Winny. I need 300RUM brass to make other calibers out of and IF I can find it I'm paying a lot for it. People just hand me 300WM brass. You can shoot a 300WM comfortably without a muzzle brake. Not so much with the 300RUM.
The 300RUM is a great round and will definitely knock an elk's d!ck in the dirt at long range but if you put the pencil to the paper, you'll see it's not that far ahead of the 300WM.
Ammo will cost you much more for the 300RUM.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&ad=36729904&cat=655&lpid=4&search=&ad_cid=1
I guess it depends how far you plan on shooting. A .300 win mag is already plenty **** potent at almost any reasonable range but the rum could stretch you out even a little further.
One advantage I see with the RUM is being able to push the heavier bullets faster than the 300WM. How much faster? I'm not really sure. Is it totally worth it? Probably not. If this is strictly a hunting rig that would only have a couple boxes through it each year, a 300 RUM would be worth it for the performance. If it's something you're wanting to shoot often, a 300 WM will definitely give you more time behind the trigger.
I vote RUM... A while back I was wanting and awesome elk cartridge and compared the 325 WSM, 338 and 300 Win, but one outlying factor that I did not collect was the fact that the 300 RUM actually produces more energy than all 3 of the rounds and even had a flatter trajectory. Without going crazy custom like with a 30-378 or a 338 Lapua the 300 RUM is an authoritative elk bone shattering crusher.

That being said my elk round is closer to a 300 win than it is a 300 RUM....
So, when I have a Son, i'm going to pass my 30-06 down to him like my dad did for me. My 270WSM will be my primary hunting gun for both deer and elk, so this gun will be a hunt on occasion gun as well as a back up gun.

So, it sounds like a majority is voting for the 300 RUM.
I'm not going to rule out the 300WM just yet though
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Just to throw another wrench into the equation take a look at the .300 and .340 Weatherby Mags.

Personally if I was going to either purchase or build a rifle for occasional or as a backup rifle for elk and bigger animals I would take a look at the .30-378 and .338-378 Weatherby rounds. Factory ammo is expensive but that is where reloading comes in handy.
Reloading too... how many cartridges per lb of powder do you get?


-DallanC
I vote 300WM just because I think you should enjoy shooting your rifle more than feeling it.
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Reloading too... how many cartridges per lb of powder do you get?

-DallanC
If that question is about the two that I mentioned, according to the Barnes manual the average load for them are:

.30-378 110 grains of powder per cartridge=63 rounds per pound
.348-378 115 grains of powder per cartridge=60 rounds per pound
Let's throw all variables into the mix and figure out the costs per load:

http://www.handloads.com/calc/loadingCosts.asp
Let's throw all variables into the mix and figure out the costs per load:

http://www.handloads.com/calc/loadingCosts.asp
My hand loads for my .340 Weatherby are just over $1.00 a round not counting the brass. The factory rounds that are very close to what I am loading are over $100.00 for 20.
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110 to 115 gr of powder... wowzers. And I thought the STW was hungry shooting XLCs with 84gr of powder.


-DallanC
300 Weatherby. Better than the win and less expensive to shoot than the rum.
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300 Weatherby. Better than the win and less expensive to shoot than the rum.
in your opinion what makes the 300 weatherby better then the 300 win?
in your opinion what makes the 300 weatherby better then the 300 win?
You get a extra 150-200fps with any given load.

Same with the 338 Win mag vrs 340 Weatherby, an extra 150-200 fps.
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300 Weatherby. Better than the win and less expensive to shoot than the rum.
Even though he didn't ask about the 300Wby, I'll chime in. Now you're talking about one of my most favorite rounds for hunting.

It has manageable recoil for most. My wife has shot her last four deer with my Accumark, including her blacktail yesterday. It's the most I can shoot at the bench for long strings without a muzzle brake.

The ballistics are slightly better than the 300WM.

If you reload it's not much more than a 300WM or 30-06 for consumables. (Factory rounds are another story.)

It will handle any big game animal. But, then again, so will the 300WM.

Out of HIS two choices, I'd still pick the 300WM just because of the ammo availability and recoil.
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I like the 300 rum with 180 to 200 grain bullets. I honestly don't think it's has all that much recoil if it has a good muzzle break. I've seen several kids shooting it this year and none of them complained. One of the guns is a light weight carbon christensen arms gun. The other was a heavy varmit style remington. You better wear hearing protection and be carful of others arround you in hunting situation though. If your not you could cause permanent hearing loss to yourself or others.

I wouldn't shoot any of the 300 mags and up without a break!
I had a 300 Win Mag that I sold about 5 years ago and that is probably the only firearm I really regret selling. So I cast my vote for the 300WM
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