[backcountry]

And I think it can be problematic operating a motor vehicle on an old registration and title. I think once it's sold those become invalid.

I had a problem registering my boat in 2021 because of minor problems associated with previous owners/documentation. They basically want a clear chain of custody before registering property to verify it's not stolen.

You'll likely have to go back to the previous owner and get a proper bill of sale.

Only way to 100% avoid citation is to not drive or transport it until it's resolved and registered. I lost a few weekends of fishing dealing because of such details.

*Registering without all the proper documentation can be a nightmare that takes months as they research the VIN up north. Mostly a pain for older trailers and boats with obscured VIN.

 

[Fowlmouth]

I have all the paperwork, including a bill of sale. This was all done through his bank. I’m just not going to offer that up at first. If they don’t ask for a bill of sale I won’t give it freely. Every other time I have handed them a title with no $ amount listed, they just processed it and charged me registration and not sales tax. We’ll see!

 

[Fowlmouth]

if I remember correctly, starting in January 2023 all ATV’s and SxS’s get a metal license plate when you register or renew. This includes off road use as well as street legal.

 

[APD]

back in 2006 i had to take one of these online OHV courses as a requirement to guide on atv's. it was similar to the extended archery course and took about 20 minutes to complete if i recall. either way, it wasn't the worst thing in the world and i learned a few things from it. for the kids it's a huge benefit. for new adult ohv drivers it'll be good too. those that have been driving and obeying the rules for a while probably don't need it. the rest of "you" need it more than you know.

 

[Vanilla]

the rest of "you" need it more than you know.

100!

 

[Rugerfan1]

My only grump with it is the "One more piece of paper" that you have to take with you and keep at the ready to provide yet more 'proof' of who you are and what your credentials are- I ride a motorcycle and keeping the registration and insurance on your person and accessible, and not having it on the bike and keeping it from becoming a wet soppy ziplock bag of mush when you are asked to show it is harder than it sounds

 

[Wbrim]

My only grump with it is the "One more piece of paper" that you have to take with you and keep at the ready to provide yet more 'proof' of who you are and what your credentials are- I ride a motorcycle and keeping the registration and insurance on your person and accessible, and not having it on the bike and keeping it from becoming a wet soppy ziplock bag of mush when you are asked to show it is harder than it sounds

The hard copy documentation really can be an irritation. I wonder if they will have all this on a phone soon. I hear of trials in some areas where drivers licenses can be digital formats. I hear some hunting licenses (that don’t require physical tags) were not mailed, but just digital this year?

 

[Critter]

Utah DWR has the digital hunting and fishing licenses. But for big game you still need the paper tag.

Colorado has digital driver licenses, vehicle registration and insurance cards, along with a few other things that can be stored on a smartphone.

As for a way to carry paper documents on a ATV or anything where a dry storage area isn't available you can get a piece of pipe that is threaded on both ends. Then put caps on that pipe. Place the documents into a zip lock bag and put inside the pipe and put the caps on. The pipe can be held onto the ATV by some hose clamps.

I've been doing it that way on trailers for years, but instead of hose clamps I'll weld the pipe to the trailer tongue

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[DallanC]

I love having all my license info on my cell phone. You still need a physical tag to hunt big game of course, but its nice to have the entire family's combo licenses on my phone in case one of them forgets one by accident and we get checked. DNR doesn't seem to care that they are all on a single device, just as long as each person has proof of a valid license they are A-ok with it.

-DallanC

 

[Rugerfan1]

The hard copy documentation really can be an irritation. I wonder if they will have all this on a phone soon. I hear of trials in some areas where drivers licenses can be digital formats. I hear some hunting licenses (that don’t require physical tags) were not mailed, but just digital this year?

A couple years ago on the way to work I was pulled over by a county sheriff, the only reason was a request for proof of insurance- all of this was weird, but okay. I mentioned it was on my phone, while reaching into the glove box for the registration, and of course paper insurance documents were with that as well, "no sir, I need a hard document" was his answer, he went to his vehicle with all my info, returned shortly and said it all corresponded to his computer information-
so the digital "proof" is inconsequential, I guess? it was kinda aggravating that all the requested information was on a database he had looked up before even approaching my vehicle, yet I still had to prove everything in document form on the side of the road at 4:30 in the morning on the way to work.

 

[Critter]

The state needs a law passed as to what digital documents they will accept.

The DWR accepts a digital hunting and fishing license at this time but most states don't accept a digital document from another state.

So when I leave Colorado I will need paper copies of my documents for my vehicle even when they are not
not required in Colorado

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[.45]

It’s free and a OIL course for those 18+. Print the certificate and toss it in your atv. Government overreach - No. Good educational tool - Yes.


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Not free

 

[.45]

Not free

And not 15 to 30 minutes either. 35 bucks and about 4 annoying hours

 

[Vanilla]

It absolutely is free for 18+, and took me 15 minutes almost exactly to complete this morning.

Just like 3arabians said in his text you quoted.

 

[.45]

It absolutely is free for 18+, and took me 15 minutes almost exactly to complete this morning.

Just like 3arabians said in his text you quoted.

Seriously? My course was through an outfit called off-road-Ed through recreation.Utah.gov.
I’m wondering if there are different courses. Vanilla do you have a link?

 

[middlefork]

New Utah OHV Education Course | Utah Division of Outdoor Recreation

recreation.utah.gov

Scroll down to begin.

Watching the video's was the most time consuming part.

 

[MrShane]

New Utah OHV Education Course | Utah Division of Outdoor Recreation

recreation.utah.gov

Scroll down to begin.

Watching the video's was the most time consuming part.

Definitely NOT free.
There are costs out of tax paid budgets to put this together and implement.
The government does not do anything for free.

 

[middlefork]

Definitely NOT free.
There are costs out of tax paid budgets to put this together and implement.
The government does not do anything for free.

A bit different take I think from .45's experience.

 

[.45]

A bit different take I think from .45's experience.

Thanks middlefork, somehow I did take a different course. I’m fully educated now! 😀

 

[Fowlmouth]

Waste of time and didn't learn a thing. I hope the guys that came up with this stupid bill pat themselves on the back. You can't teach common sense in a lifetime, let alone in 20 minutes. Some of the questions were absolutely silly. If people are really this dumb and do half the stuff mentioned in the course, then there's no hope for them anyway. At least people will know how to bury a turd.

I welcome and support educational courses that teach information. This was a frickin' waste of time.