Autoloading Shotguns ???

After watching several "ghost loading" videos on youtube, it looks like there are a few shotguns that will float shells. Including some pump action guns too. Who knew?

OK I am dumb, what is "floating" a shell?

LostLouisianian said:

OK I am dumb, what is "floating" a shell?

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It's having your gun plugged but putting an extra shell on the carrier to have 4 loaded. One in the chamber, 2 in the magazine, and the fourth on the carrier. Not all guns can do it, and I really don't see any advantage-I rarely can get off more than 2 shots anyway. How often does anyone shoot triples out of a flock, much less quadruples? It just doesn't seem worth the risks to me. If I remember right a guy that was from Utah got caught doing this on the KSL outdoors show a few years ago, he ended up killing himself over it (obviously he already had some problems if that's what pushed him over the edge).

LostLouisianian said:

OK I am dumb, what is "floating" a shell?

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From the youtube videos, its 2 in the mag, one in the chamber, a third resting in the gap below the action.

-DallanC

OK thanks, well I figure if it takes me more than 3 shots then I need more practice...although I do have a couple of 5 shot magazine extensions that will let me load a total of 10 for whenever I do get to go on the special goose hunt in SE Looziana. No plug, no limit, electronic calling, flocks of 100+ just diving in regularly.

For $hits & giggles I tried to float the forth in both of my SX3's and I can't get it to work. The YouTube video's that I seen are SX2's. Maybe they are just different enough from the SX3 that it works?

I tried my Beretta 390 and it wont work in it either.

JerryH said:

For $hits & giggles I tried to float the forth in both of my SX3's and I can't get it to work. The YouTube video's that I seen are SX2's. Maybe they are just different enough from the SX3 that it works?

I tried my Beretta 390 and it wont work in it either.

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It works in the SX3. There is a sequence that you must follow.

I tried the sequence from the videos on YouTube and it wouldn't work.

Maybe they changed something in the action on newer models so it won't work? Like Benelli changed their bolts in the M2's & SBE?

Hmmm....My buddy purchased a SX3 new last season and he can do it too. He's the one that actually showed me how to do it.

Post up the sequence or PM me the info if you don't mind. I want to see my guns will do it. Thanks

I know my SBE will. Just for fun, I tried it in my new A-5; it would

JerryH said:

Post up the sequence or PM me the info if you don't mind. I want to see my guns will do it. Thanks

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Open the action but don't lock it back, now load a shell in the barrel, then load 2 shells in the magazine tube while holding the handle back with the action still open, now drop a shell on the carrier and push down while sliding the action forward.

So technically all these guns are illegal to hunt waterfowl with... right? Because they are capable of holding 4 shells. Unless you get an extended plug so it will only hold one in the chamber, one on the carrier and one in the tube..:?

Goshawk said:

So technically all these guns are illegal to hunt waterfowl with... right? Because they are capable of holding 4 shells. Unless you get an extended plug so it will only hold one in the chamber, one on the carrier and one in the tube..:?

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Correct.

-DallanC

Goshawk said:

So technically all these guns are illegal to hunt waterfowl with... right? Because they are capable of holding 4 shells. Unless you get an extended plug so it will only hold one in the chamber, one on the carrier and one in the tube..:?

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Good point.

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Goshawk said:

So technically all these guns are illegal to hunt waterfowl with... right? Because they are capable of holding 4 shells. Unless you get an extended plug so it will only hold one in the chamber, one on the carrier and one in the tube..:?

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I'm okay with using a double barrel if that's what it comes down to.
You can watch Youtube videos of guys floating shells in autos and pumps.

That's kind of my question with this being common knowledge what are the COs going to do about it? I think most likely they will just ignore it for now but who knows...

By the way I tried it with my BPS......didn't work..:mrgreen:

Fowlmouth said:

I'm okay with using a double barrel if that's what it comes down to.

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I sure hope it doesn't come down to that, mainly because I don't know if I could afford it at the moment.

I saw a guy at FB with a nice camo double barrel O/U - I've got to admit I was a bit envious. I wouldn't dare expose most O/U guns to the elements I face in the marsh, but I think I'd really like to use one for waterfowling at some point (I think having two chokes would benefit me a lot in the type of hunting I usually do). We'll see what I end up doing down the road, but for now the SX3 does just fine.

Fowlmouth said:

Open the action but don't lock it back, now load a shell in the barrel, then load 2 shells in the magazine tube while holding the handle back with the action still open, now drop a shell on the carrier and push down while sliding the action forward.

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I tried your method. Watched the 3 videos on YouTube for the SX2 and none of the sequences work. My 12ga SX3 is brand new and my 20ga is 3 years old. If I pull back the bolt 3/4's of the way back it releases the shell in the magazine and you have a mess. With the bolt pulled back 3/4's of the way back you can't even sneak a 2.75" shell under the bolt.

Unless a person alters the under side of the bolt like what can be done on Benelli's I just don't see it working.