my brother and I were shooting our muzzleloaders today and nearly everytime he loaded his cva it pulled the sst out of the barrel stuck to the end of the ramrod. we looked at his cva ramrod compared to the ramrod on my t/c and they looked similar enough. we were both shooting sst bullets. In all the years ive used a muzzleloader ive never had that happen. sucks cause if he put it back it would've been difficult to tell if it was seated snuggly back in the sabot or not.