[Vanilla]

If people poach for the likes, subscription, and ad revenue (which I actually agree many do), why’d they do it before any of that was available?

So many more deer were killed illegally back in Critter’s day than we could ever dream today. Why’d they do it back then when the likes, subscriptions, and ad revenue weren’t available?

 

[colorcountrygunner]

Personally, I think most of this BS is ultimately derived from likes, subscriptions, and ad revenue. This guy, and others like him are willing to push the limits of what is legal or ethical because of it. All three of those things (likes, subscribe, money), I think, create a big freaking inflated ego. Overall this whole "influencer" thing has gotten out of hand. Casts attention where none is wanted, and makes things more difficult for the rest of us. Thinking out loud for a moment, I wonder what skeletons are in Hushin's closet.

I suppose most of these big names can be categorized in some manner. Personally I've never heard of Muley Freak, but there's a ton of big name channels out there. Some are entertaining, some are educational, some are both.

EDIT: I talk too much.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Cheesemiester has had some trespassing and other little faux pas come up as well.

 

[colorcountrygunner]

That's disappointing to hear about the Blowmars getting off with a wrist slapping. All the rabid wolves over on archerytalk were licking their chops waiting for them to get their asses handed to them. The thing that gets me is why do so many [PEOPLE] have such a [ATTRACTION] for all these influencer types? It's creepy to me how [PEOPLE] can crush so hard on other [PEOPLE] and be so obsessed with them. Have you ever read through the comments on a Cam Hanes post? I get having respect for a guy and his accomplishments but the sychophantic [CRUSHING] is enough to make me barf.

What? My post got edited?

 

[Bux n Dux]

If people poach for the likes, subscription, and ad revenue (which I actually agree many do), why’d they do it before any of that was available?

So many more deer were killed illegally back in Critter’s day than we could ever dream today. Why’d they do it back then when the likes, subscriptions, and ad revenue weren’t available?

Because people were hungry or were in fear of going hungry. And those people actually ate the deer.

some poached for antlers. But most that I’m aware of did it for the meat.

 

[colorcountrygunner]

When my grandma was a little girl she had an uncle that would bring a hind quarter of venison over once in awhile and tell them he brought some "government mutton". But that was back in the depression era and I don't think Critter is quite that old. I think a lot of the poaching that was done in Critter's day was done for a lot of the same reasons poaching is done today. Hillbilly thrill killers that just like to kill chit and watch it die. These types have always existed. Look back at the mid 19th century at all the great white hunters that divested the plains of millions of bison just because they could and nobody was gonna stop them. I'm currently reading the Witchery of Archery by Maurice Thompson. His exploits took place in the post civil war era and while it is a good read a lot of people today would take issue with his ethics and morals. He talks a lot about shooting woodpeckers, herons and other birds just for fun. At one point he talks about shooting a bunch of wood ducks and rather than keeping them for camp meat, they opted to toss them because they smelled fishy. I think wanton bloodlust is one of the biggest reasons for poaching. Every year some fuggin Utard goes and plugs a moose and leaves it to rot. He isn't doing it for social media clout because it was done illegally and he has to hide it. It wasn't done for the meat because he left it all out in the field. He just had an itch to tip something over and he went ahead and did it.

Why is it no longer Critter's day? At what age does society decide it's just not your day anymore?

 

[Critter]

How did I get brought into this Mr. Vanila?

I'll admit that my dad did some poaching for meat in his mining days back in the 30's, 40's, and early 50's. But as was said that meat got ate and usually it was eaten quite fast.

But in today's age with government handouts there is zero reason to poach a animal. If you want meat to eat get yourself a fishing pole along with a license. Or patrol the roads hoping for a roadkill that is still salvageable get a permit for it and take it home.

There never has been a reason for shooting a animal just for its horns or antlers. There was one poacher out of Montrose Colorado who in the 70's and early 80's would go out and shoot the largest mule deer that he could find. He got quite the repetition for being able to find the biggest bucks around. Come to find out most of the deer that he killed were at night and without a tag. It took a while for them to catch him but they finally did. I believe that his name was Kirt Darner

 

[Vanilla]

How did I get brought into this Mr. Vanila?

I just figured that every other thread you always have a "back in my day story," so... 😜

I'm certainly not suggesting critter is a poacher or was a poacher. As best as I can tell, there aren't many on the forum that have been hunting longer than Critter. That's why I used his name. I can guarantee there were exponentially more deer killed illegally in in the 1960s than there were in 2022, and that is only counting the ones that were not doing it because their families were starving. We won't even count the ones that legitimately did it because they needed the meat and couldn't, for whatever reason, obtain the proper license.

I know old farmers that have told me stories about how they purposefully gut shot does for decades to reduce deer numbers around their farms. This of course only happened "back in the day."

 

[Critter]

I know old farmers that have told me stories about how they purposefully gut shot does for decades to reduce deer numbers around their farms. This of course only happened "back in the day."

When we were hunting north of Blanding back in the day (mid 60) a rancher/farmer came up to us and told us to shoot as many deer as we saw. When I first went down there and wasn't able to get a tag or legally pack a rifle there was a 7 deer limit for a single tag in the area.

 

[Vanilla]

When we were hunting north of Blanding back in the day (mid 60) a rancher/farmer came up to us and told us to shoot as many deer as we saw. When I first went down there and wasn't able to get a tag or legally pack a rifle there was a 7 deer limit for a single tag in the area.

See?!?!? I knew you'd come through! That is why I used your name. 🤣

 

[RandomElk16]

Lol and now a video defense series. Will be interested.

I am not swayed until the court case is resolved. I heard the UWB hearing and it sounded convincing until the other party spoke.

 

[american_jackal]

Im on neither side of this fight, but the IG posts Muley Freak has posted seem to show he did have permission, and was in regular communication with the land owner. Looks as if the fish cop didn't do much of an investigation. But that is one side of the story, hopefully landowner has some solid proof, to back his claims. It'll be interesting to find the truth of the matter. Ill withhold judgement till then.