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Well, I am at a point where I just want to hunt as much as possible. So, every year, I look for tags that I can pull with a limited number of points. I will let my sons build up their points and go on some pretty awesome hunts later on with them. Therefore, I went into this year with 0 points for antlerless elk. As everyone knows, there is very little you can pull with 0 points that have any kind of access. After doing a good amount of research on the units that were possibilities, I put in for the La Sal North unit and pulled it. The tag is good for late season (mid Nov-Jan 31). With other hunts planned between Sep-Nov, I thought this was really good. I took 2 different trips to the area (I had never stepped foot in the unit prior to these trips), but the latest trip I took was in September and there was no snow at the time. I knew that snow was going to be a major player in success on this trip, so made back up plans to try and get into the area if my main road was snowed in. I planned to set aside 5 days at the beginning of December to go hunt hoping that the snow wouldn't be too deep at this point.

Well, fast forward to mid November and my oldest son and I were in WY hunting deer. We were only 2 days in and had 1 doe in the coolers. We were looking for a doe for my son and a WT buck. We had permission on 2 different private properties and felt really good at our chances with the rut being in full swing. Unfortunately, driving down a road, there was open range and a cow stepped out in front of me. $11k in damages and another $2500 in towing charges to get the truck back home. I was not going to be going to elk hunt at the beginning of Dec as it was going to take at least a month to get my truck back.

I got the truck back from the body shop right before Christmas and made plans to try and get into my unit for this last weekend. Knowing that the road I normally go in on from the NW goes over 8500 ft before dropping down to lower elevations, I planned to circle all the way around to Gateway CO and come in from the east. Unfortunately, the access from that side wasn't great either and I got into snow that was too deep to pass by the time I hit about 6200 ft. So, after spending the night, I tried every road I could find that might get me through from the eastern side of the unit with no luck. I packed up and drove to Moab and decided I would go in and just see what the road would look like.

Surprisingly, it had been plowed all the way up and I was at the top where I needed to Y off and head back up to the NE to drop down to where I assumed the elk would be hanging out. Bad move. Although that road looked like it had been recently plowed, within 20 yds, I realized how wrong I was. It took 3 hours of shoveling to get out. I scoured my maps and just couldn't find any other access points to lower elevation. I now fully understand why the tag is pretty easy to get a hold of. On lighter snow years, you could probably get in there at the beginning of the season or early Dec, but by this time of year, without a snow machine, you aren't going in there. Oh well. We ended the season with 3 deer in our freezer. My son shot his first deer and I shot a mulie buck here in UT and a doe in WY. I can't complain too much about it, but I wish I had some elk meat in the freezer.:LOL:
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I feel ya. I had a late season cow tag that ended Jan. 1. I was planning on going the 30-31, but it was right in the middle of that massive storm, so I didn't even attempt it. Oh well. Next year, or maybe in 4 years with draw odds.

Congrats on the deer!
 

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I feel for you on the cow collision, ouch. That can go badly for occupants.

For being stuck: Hilift jack + lift-mate. Get out of so many things easily. Gotta have the lift-mate though. Lift directly on the tire, fill in hole, move to other side repeat. The way it rests against the tire, helps keep the base from slipping. You can use straps or whatever around the rim spokes, but the jack floats more and can slip easier.



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Sorry to hear about your luck. That's tough.

That's definitely big country over there. I've always been curious about hunting that general area, especially the Dolores Triangle. I've seen elk moving through that entire region Oct-Nov and then again in March. Just never spent time there in December and January. The logistics for the region are a legit challenge, even once you figure out initial road access.

Now you've got me thinking about that place again, though I'm a long way from being confident enough with my hunting skill to pull it off.
 

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It is a tough area to access in a truck once the snow hits, and John Brown canyon might be at the top of my list of roads to avoid in Utah once there is snow on the ground. Sounds like you had a great season otherwise, and lessons learned for next time.
 

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I feel ya. I had a late season cow tag that ended Jan. 1. I was planning on going the 30-31, but it was right in the middle of that massive storm, so I didn't even attempt it. Oh well. Next year, or maybe in 4 years with draw odds.

Congrats on the deer!
I hear you on the draw odds. It really is difficult to find the units you can draw with 1-2 points, and there's typically a reason that they only require that many.
 

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I feel for you on the cow collision, ouch. That can go badly for occupants.

For being stuck: Hilift jack + lift-mate. Get out of so many things easily. Gotta have the lift-mate though. Lift directly on the tire, fill in hole, move to other side repeat. The way it rests against the tire, helps keep the base from slipping. You can use straps or whatever around the rim spokes, but the jack floats more and can slip easier.



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Yeah. I was able to hit the brakes enough and swerve enough that the impact didn't end up setting off the airbags and neither myself or my son were injured at all. We felt very fortunate. It could have been so much worse.

I have been meaning to get a highlift jack for quite a while and just never have. This will be the catalyst to make that happen for sure. And thanks for the tip on the lift mate.
 

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Sorry to hear about your luck. That's tough.

That's definitely big country over there. I've always been curious about hunting that general area, especially the Dolores Triangle. I've seen elk moving through that entire region Oct-Nov and then again in March. Just never spent time there in December and January. The logistics for the region are a legit challenge, even once you figure out initial road access.

Now you've got me thinking about that place again, though I'm a long way from being confident enough with my hunting skill to pull it off.
It's amazing country. Spending some time there in July and September was awesome. With the amount of deer I was seeing in there, I am beginning to think about what kind of points I will need to save to deer hunt in there. But, there are definitely a good number of elk and great habitat for them. The access can be tricky though late in the year.
 

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It is a tough area to access in a truck once the snow hits, and John Brown canyon might be at the top of my list of roads to avoid in Utah once there is snow on the ground. Sounds like you had a great season otherwise, and lessons learned for next time.
John Brown is the exact area I was trying to get into initially. That didn't happen. Snow was 18 in-2 ft at only 6000 ft. No way I was getting in there without a snow machine.
 

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With that much snow a set of chains is mandatory. Not the cheesy cable chains but good solid ones with large links. They are hell on radial tires with light sidewalls but they will get you into areas that you might not want to be in. I have a set for all 4 tires for my diesel and with them on I haven't been stopped even with 24"+ of snow. You just put the truck into low gear and go.

Too bad on the hunt, those problems that you experienced are some of the reasons that I really don't think of a late season elk hunt. Where I am at there is a late season hunt but you need to be ready at the correct time as the elk migrate off of private through BLM and then back onto some private.
 

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I wouldn't be shocked if "he" is actually a character being shopped for a new movie or something. Probably a screenwriter trying to figure out how far to push the limits of believable. It would appear they chose the wrong forum if they want to find an upper limit of crazy.
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John Brown is the exact area I was trying to get into initially. That didn't happen. Snow was 18 in-2 ft at only 6000 ft. No way I was getting in there without a snow machine.
I figured that was it. And yeah, if you were dealing with that at only 6k feet, you would have had had drifts at the top of the canyon that no chains in the world would've let your truck get through. Assuming you didn't get royally fu...dged on the switchbacks.
 

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I figured that was it. And yeah, if you were dealing with that at only 6k feet, you would have had had drifts at the top of the canyon that no chains in the world would've let your truck get through. Assuming you didn't get royally fu...dged on the switchbacks.
A person needs some common sense, I know that it s a very rare trait nowadays.

If you are getting into more than a couple feet of snow that has been there for a while the odds of finding elk higher are very slim.
 
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