[Bears Butt]

Is it legal for me to go coyote hunting in an area where there is a special big game hunt going on?

 

[archery]

i guess it is. though you would need to wear hunter orange, perhaps the question is why?? two things , one- you are going to be competing with alot of other people for space to hunt, two you are likely going to screw up someones elk hunt. so why not go out in the desert and poke some yotes? instead of in the hills. though i would like to do the same sometimes. i saw about a million coyotes this year during bow elk and deer. somebody needs to thin em out. but may i suggest waiting till after the big game seasons are over.

 

[landshark]

I would have to agree there. Wait until the season is over or you will most likely have more than a few pissed off people. Pissed off people and guns are never a good mix. You never know who is out there that might be a bit off-balance.

 

[RuttCrazed]

Not illegal and you don't need to wear orange.

Rut

 

[archery]

I was of the belief that orange was required if you were hunting something else in an open area for a big game rifle hunt. i am probly wrong ( my wife says i always am)

 

[Huge29]

Not illegal and you don't need to wear orange.

Rut

From the big game proclamation: "3) A person is not required to wear hunter orange material during an archery, muzzleloader, mountain goat, or bighorn sheep hunt, unless a centerfire rifle hunt is in progress in the same area."
Since this was from the big game proc; coyotes are not covered under this area and under furbearers the proc simply says coyotes can be hunted year round w/o any license. I guess technically you might not have to wear orange, but I think it would be a very good idea to have at least some orange. It is wierd to think that you may not need to wear orange coyote hunting, but if you were hunting big horn or goats in the same area you would have to???

 

[Fishrmn]

C. Temporary Game Preserves
R657-5-7
(1)(a) A person who does not have a valid permit to hunt on a temporary game preserve may not carry a firearm or archery equipment on any temporary
game preserve while the respective hunts are in progress.
(b) "Carry" means having a firearm on your person while hunting in the field.
(2) As used in this section, "temporary game preserve" means all bull elk, buck pronghorn, moose, bison, bighorn sheep, Rocky Mountain goat and limited entry buck deer areas and CWMUs, excluding incorporated areas, cities, towns and municipalities.
(3) Weapon restrictions on temporary game preserves do not apply to:
(a) a person licensed to hunt upland game or waterfowl provided the person complies with the rules and regulations specified in the Upland Game Proclamation or Waterfowl Proclamation, respectively, and possessing only legal weapons to take upland game or waterfowl;
(b) livestock owners protecting their livestock;
(c) peace officers in the performance of their duties; or
(d) a person licensed to carry a concealed weapon in accordance with Title 53, Chapter 5, Part 7 of the Utah Code, provided the person is not utilizing the concealed firearm to hunt or take protected wildlife.

Weapon and ammunition requirements
50 CFR 20.21 and Utah Admin. Code R657-6-6 and R657-5-9
Upland game may be taken with a shotgun no larger than 10 gauge, a handgun or with archery equipment. The shot for shotgun and handgun loads must be between no. 2 and no. 8 in size and one-half ounce or more in weight.
The only exceptions to these rules are the following:
sandhill crane may be taken only with nontoxic shot, but there's no • restriction on the size of the nontoxic shot you may use (to learn more about nontoxic shot, please see the definition on page 12 of this guide);
migratory game birds (doves, pigeons and cranes) may not be taken • with a shotgun capable of holding more than three shells (one in the chamber and two in the magazine).
Many shotguns can hold more than two shells in the magazine, but making these guns legal for dove, pigeon and crane hunting is easy. An inexpensive item, called a "shotgun plug," comes with most shotguns or you can purchase one at most sporting goods stores. Place the plug in the magazine of your gun, and your gun should not be capable of holding
more than two shells in the magazine.
doves, pigeons and cranes may not be taken with a handgun; •
cottontail rabbit and snowshoe hare may be taken with any firearm that • is not capable of being fired fully automatic;
During most of Utah's big game hunts, the areas where the hunts take place become what Utah law refers to as "temporary game preserves."
Temporary game preserves are any area in Utah where a bull elk, buck pronghorn, moose, bison, bighorn sheep or Rocky Mountain goat hunt is taking
place. In addition, all limited entry buck deer areas and CWMUs in Utah are considered temporary game preserves while hunts are taking place on them.
Only shotguns, firing shot sizes no. 4 or smaller, or archery tackle without broadheads, may be used when hunting upland game on a temporary game preserve. There is one exception to this rule: you can possess and use broadheads
if you have a valid big game archery permit for the area you're hunting.

If they want to give you a ticket for hunting coyotes during a bull elk hunt they can. You might get away with hunting them with a shotgun, provided you use shot size 4 or smaller.

Fishrmn

 

[RuttCrazed]

So it is illegal to hunt rabbits in the west desert (inside the Vernon Unit) with a .22 during the deer hunt?

Rut

 

[Bears Butt]

Fishrmn, thanks for the extensive proc writeup, lots of info in there. But, it clearly states that the "temporary game preserve", is where Bulls and Bucks are being hunted. My question is about hunting coyotes in an area where there is a COW ELK hunt going on.
I guess reasoning would lead me to think that I should wait until the hunt is over at the end of January before going into that area to hunt yotes. I hate to wait tho, because it gets damned cold in there and would be much more comfortable to hunt in November or December.
Thanks everyone for the comments.

 

[chet]

rut,
if you are liscensed for small game you can legally hunt cottontails inside the Vernon unit throughout the cottontail season with a .22. But if you're just blasting jackrabbits you'd better be using a shotgun.

 

[Fishrmn]

My question is about hunting coyotes in an area where there is a COW ELK hunt going on.

That's a horse of a different color. During a cow hunt it isn't a temporary game preserve.

rut,
if you are liscensed for small game you can legally hunt cottontails inside the Vernon unit throughout the cottontail season with a .22. But if you're just blasting jackrabbits you'd better be using a shotgun.

Nope. The proclamation clearly states:
Only shotguns, firing shot sizes no. 4 or smaller, or archery tackle without broadheads, may be used when hunting upland game on a temporary game preserve. There is one exception to this rule: you can possess and use broadheads
if you have a valid big game archery permit for the area you're hunting.

A .22 ain't a shotgun, and cottontails are upland game.

Fishrmn