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duck call for beginers

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what would be a good duck call.just starting to get into waterfowl hunting with my son.
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i use primos single and double reads. i have had good luck with them. last year was my first year hunting too. i also have a whisle from them, sometimes that and my goose call will be the only 2 i take
Go with a double reed. Any brand will do A double is generally easier to blow and sounds raspy and ducky n matter how you blow it. Then practice before going to the water. Afer you get there, shut up!!! Already I am noticing less is more this year. This tells me there are a bunch of loud mouth wanna be competition callers out there this year.
GreenHead 2,
Comp callers sound like ducks so what ever you have been hearing in the marsh can't be comp caller wannabe's. Call it what it is " bad calling" and leave comp calling out of it.



Husker,
I would suggest a double reed call by Sean Mann. The Double Trouble is the model.
Good luck in the call search.
I have a couple I've used that are pretty easy it seems. I guess any cheapo call by Hunters Specialties will work but on my lanyard I've got the single reed Bill Collector. I also have a signiture series Buck Gardner call from when he was with HS that isn't out there anymore.... you can get Bucks line of calls though. I had a Tall Timber and didn't like it very much. The Bill Collector is loud and raspy but you can also get quiet quacks and feeding calls from it. I also have a double reed made by TruTone (wood call) that is really, really raspy and is one of the easiest double reeds I've ever blown. I'm built on a small frame and for some reason, I have a hard time coming up with enough air to really work some of the stiff double reeds. Singles, just my opinion, would be the way to go if you're a smaller person... especially if you're getting a call for a kid just starting out. I think any of the Primos calls or the Quackhead calls would be good starters just because they're so easy to work and with a little practice, they definitely get the ducks attention. Good luck and congrats on starting out... its a great time.
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I readily suggest getting a Carlson Equalizer with the accompanying instructional video. Very good call for the money and some of the best instruction out there. It's the one that really turned the corner for me after having tried several other calls.

http://duckcallers.org/carlson/equal.html
I just posted this reply in another thread, so if you read it there, you'll read it again here.

The first call that I ever purchased was the Primos Double Wench. I still have that call, and it is one of my favorite calls ever. There are several different variations of the Wench; the Double Wench, the Timber Wench, the Hardwood Wench, the Diamondwood Wench, & the Cocobolo Wench. I have at least one or 2 of each. There's acrylic Wenches, too, but I haven't shelled out the bucks for one of those yet. I would if I could afford it though.

No matter which Wench I'm using, they always seem easy to blow, they don't stick, and they sound like ducks. the Double Wench has a tuning hole in the stopper that can be covered/uncovered, whererby changing the pitch of the quack, so you can sound like multiple ducks while only having to carry one call. It's also a very forgiving call if you make mistakes. I think these Wenches are the best calls that beginners can start learning on and I still think they sound great and perform well even for more experienced callers.

I'm not a good duck caller, I'm still learning, and the Wench is still one of my favorites. I also really like Southern Game Calls. I've got a Little Joel and a Nasty Boy that both sound great. Buck Gardner's older calls are also some of my favorites. I also like the Hunter's Specialties Bill collectors as well. I have a single reed and a double reed. Cutt Down also makes some good cocobolo wood calls, too.

All of these calls would be great calls to learn on. (2cents' worth)
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ChiefAutoParts said:
Buck Gardner's older calls are also some of my favorites.
I have an old signiture series single reed polycarb that I just barely put back on my lanyard. I hadn't used it in probably four years.... but its just so dang ducky I figured I'd give it another run.... Its pretty good for an old call but I have to rest it, otherwise it starts sticking on me. Its so broken in that I can just roll a feeding call on it seems like forever before coming down into a quack. I love that old call.... I actually had it stored away in my "personal stuff" box (because it was the first call I ever owned), came across it, blew on it and thought I'd put it back to some good use.
NovaNation said:
GreenHead 2,
Comp callers sound like ducks so what ever you have been hearing in the marsh can't be comp caller wannabe's. Call it what it is " bad calling" and leave comp calling out of it.

Husker,
I would suggest a double reed call by Sean Mann. The Double Trouble is the model.
Good luck in the call search.
Call it what it is??? I DID!!!!! Guys out there blowing as hard and loud as they can. They blow the same routine from start to finish, then when the birds don't responde, they generally sky blast them. A hail call is a attention getter. In all the years I have been hunting waterfowl,never have I heard a duck scream over and over, or have I ever heard one drop in to a feed back to a squealing repition of chatter. Yup wanna be comp callers. Difference is, a comp caller can keep it smooth and clean. A comp caller is basically a musician. He plays all the notes in a alloted time frame. Comp calling has zero to do with working birds. These guys buy a CD, They hear all the notes then try to reproduce them ALL AT THE SAMETIME!!! Working birds and blowing on stage, two different things. Wanna be comp callers in the marsh and bad callers, that would be the samething,sorry you couldn't put the two together by yourself!!!!!
Thanks for the detailed explanation.
So what your saying is that I should get rid of my cd's?
GH2, glad to see you still (think you) know everything. You have made some good points. I think a lot of people do listen to the cd's, watch the movies and think that you have to do a "routine" every time you see a duck, and aren't willing to change it up. BUT those same cd's can be a huge help in learning the notes. You have to know two main things in calling ducks. 1- how to sound like a duck (cd's are a big help here) and 2- When to blow each note. (time in the blind is the ONLY way to learn that). To tell someone new to calling to throw away the cd's is just stupid IMO. NovaNation, I would suggest using the cd's to learn the notes and sounds, then get in the marsh as much as you can to learn when to blow those notes. Remember to switch it up if what you are doing isn't working.

BTW, two weeks ago I was able to pull 3 groups of mallards off live ducks with a ringing hail call. We were set up on a pond just off a corn field the ducks were feeding in. When those ducks passed us by and started to drop into the field I would lay into them as loud and long as I could. 3 of 4 groups came over and dropped into our deeks. I am no pro at all. Just a beginner that is starting to learn a thing or two. Sometimes crazy things just work.
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You guys are arguing over things you agree with! What he's saying is true: take a comp caller doing his routing and stick him in the marsh and he'll scare every bird away including the gulls.

Now take that same comp call who knows when to utilize each call, when to call, when to shut up, and ducks you'll have success.

You have to:
1) know how to call
2) know when to call
3) know when NOT to call
Gumbo said:
2) know when to call
3) know when NOT to call
Yep... and number 3 is the one most people have the hard time with. :lol:
tredonme, sorry you have the inability to read sarcasm, but Im happy to see that you think you know everything!!!! Mabey if you read a little slower and think about what I wrote, you will see the meaning of what I wrote!!!! It seems most got it. Here I will try to make you understand and save you some time. CDs are great for beginers, and also guys that have been calling along time. Someone is always coming up with a new way to make some noise, especially goose calling. But a new caller needs to learn how to read birds more than bugle their guts out. Look for the wings to change, heads turn, bodys tip' Hitting them in the face with a hail call at 30yds away in most cases does what??? tredonme, why don't you answer that, since you believe you know everything. Don't listen to the CD and hit the marsh trying to make every call, don't call and call and call, its not necessary. Silence is golden,something else you could learn tredonme. It has been explained several times by me and others the difference between comp calling and calling ducks. In case you still don't understand tredonme, sarcasm eye rolling ect.... was my intent when I wrote throw away your cd. Is it clear now????
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This is absolutlely hillarious! Hopefully, maybe someday I can go hunt with greenhead2 so I can get some lessons on how to work birds and just hunt ducks in general.
So I bring up something that educates ducks, a problem new callers make by over calling, trying to sound like a comp caller doing his routine, and now Im a dick??? No wonder why so many complain about people who hunt public areas. The one's arguing with me probably are the same people I am talking about??? Enjoy your saturday morning calling contest!!!
brent,
you are freaking hilarious. i don't know what's gotten into you lately with this post and the baker post over on duckhunter, but keep it up, i love it. maybe if you follow these guys' advice you will be a good caller one day :mrgreen: .
Some of the stuff you are saying is very good information. But the way you come off about it makes it sound like you are a know it all. I was just having a little fun with ya. Just remember some of the guys you are talking to might know a little more than you about calling ducks and duck calling in general. Its real easy to be a pro on the internet sometimes.
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