[Vanilla]

I am a fan of Vortex and believe they have a lot of bang for the buck. At least they did when I bought my spotter many years ago. That said, there simply is no comparison between those you mention and Vortex when it comes to overall quality. Vortex works for my needs compared to my disposable income level. If my disposable income level rose substantially, then Vortex would no longer work for me and I'd have no hesitation upgrading.

It would be really hard for me to bite the bullet and justify spending $3K+ on glass in my current circumstances. I no doubt want to, however!

 

[BigT]

Id take you up and look through that kowa

K. Happy to arrange a time.. You in Tooele?

 

[2pntkiller]

K. Happy to arrange a time.. You in Tooele?

I sent you a pm

 

[CPAjeff]

I am a fan of Vortex and believe they have a lot of bang for the buck. At least they did when I bought my spotter many years ago. That said, there simply is no comparison between those you mention and Vortex when it comes to overall quality. Vortex works for my needs compared to my disposable income level. If my disposable income level rose substantially, then Vortex would no longer work for me and I'd have no hesitation upgrading.

It would be really hard for me to bite the bullet and justify spending $3K+ on glass in my current circumstances. I no doubt want to, however!

C'mon now Vanilla, I see attorney bills all the time - you can afford better glass!! Not to mention the Kuiu gear that helps you catch more fish!!

 

[johnnycake]

C'mon now Vanilla, I see attorney bills all the time - you can afford better glass!! Not to mention the Kuiu gear that helps you catch more fish!!

How good of glass does one need to buy in order to see their precious herd of points growing in perpetuity?

 

[CPAjeff]

How good of glass does one need to buy in order to see their precious herd of points growing in perpetuity?

Valid question. It seems Vortex glass is holding him back from cashing those points in. If only he'd switch to Swaro, he'd start drawing tags!!

 

[2pntkiller]

Valid question. It seems Vortex glass is holding him back from cashing those points in. If only he'd switch to Swaro, he'd start drawing tags!!

I heard that about Sitka years ago and I can confirm ita not true. Sold all my Sitka cuz of it

 

[johnnycake]

Valid question. It seems Vortex glass is holding him back from cashing those points in. If only he'd switch to Swaro, he'd start drawing tags!!

Why would he want that?! Vanillabean doesn't like to hunt, he just loves accumulating and caressing his pretty points.

 

[Vanilla]

Why would he want that?! Vanillabean doesn't like to hunt, he just loves accumulating and caressing his pretty points.

I sleep with them each night. It’s glorious!

Try that with a single tag.

 

[johnnycake]

I sleep with them each night. It’s glorious!

Try that with a single tag.

That's the beauty of the Northland, I never have to worry about only having one tag. And unlike your points, I don't have to pay for the privilege of sleeping with my tags if that's how I choose to roll. But no judgment, it is 2022 after all

 

[Vanilla]

That's the beauty of the Northland, I never have to worry about only having one tag. And unlike your points, I don't have to pay for the privilege of sleeping with my tags if that's how I choose to roll. But no judgment, it is 2022 after all

None of that is as cool as points. You’re just jealous!

And CPAJeff, I assure you that if Swaros were in the budget that I’d have already made the purchase. I’ve got to pay for all my points, after all!

 

[2pntkiller]

But how about that wade lemon Trump ordeal

 

[Ray]

Honestly, I just pack a pair of 12x50 vipers and a tripod, works for me.

Now if I had to be able to see if a moose was over 50, or a ram was full curl then I’d drop the money for some of the high end stuff but I’ll probably never have that problem.

Additionally, I have better than 20/20 vision, I’m sure that also helps.

 

[Vanilla]

Additionally, I have better than 20/20 vision, I’m sure that also helps.

Enjoy it while it lasts! I used to be measured at 20/10. Not even sure what I am anymore, but I’m sure I need glasses.

 

[Ray]

Enjoy it while it lasts! I sided to be measured at 20/10. Not even sure what I am anymore, but I’m sure I need glasses.

It’s sucks but it’s true, vision is the one thing that eventually goes for everyone

 

[bobwhitebarry]

I have owned a pair of 10x42 Diamondbacks for about 10 years. They have worked fairly well for me, but I’m looking to upgrade my binos and finally pull the trigger on a spotting scope for my upcoming LE elk tag.

Are the higher tier Vortex binos/scopes good enough or will I be giving up a lot by not going with Kowa or Swaro?

I’m tempted to go with the Vortex due to price and available discounts..

I bought Vortex 10x42'2 for my boys. They love them, but when they use my Leica 10x42 they can't believe the difference. I also own a Swarovski 12x50 EL and that is by far the best glass I have ever owned. I also have the Swarovski ATX spotting scope. Both have the Swarovski edge flattening that is superior to anything else I have seen.

Buy once, cry once!

 

[RandomElk16]

For bino's - there can be a pretty big difference. I have looked through 8 power swaro that felt like a spotter. It's just up to you on what you NEED the bino's to do for you. Most people can get by with Diamondbacks or upgrade to Vipers/BX4s and see all they need to see looking that quick. Bushnell and Nikon were massive back in the day - all glass is better than it was.

For a spotter - same thing. There is some huge differences. For most though - it's hard to beat going with a 1st gen 85mm Razor for under $1k vs a $3k swaro. You could buy a rifle AND spotter for less than a swaro. If you are concerned that it's a 202" buck vs a 195" and have to know.. ok. If you are the type who can say "oh that's a good deer lets go shoot him", then your needs are different.

If your optics make you a living (guide) or you just can pee money because you have a great job or high disposable income, by all means. If you are what some call "an average joe" hunter (I am)... don't strap yourself financially.