Wdycle, I agree..... let em fly and shoot em out of the air. Have I groundpounded birds?? Heck yeah I have.... sometimes you just about have to pick a grouse up and punt it to get it in the air.... :lol:.... but I've shot my share on the ground. Ducks... well, I've pounded my fair share on the water. When I started out, I thought thats how you were supposed to hunt because I didn't know any better... I can't use the I was a kid excuse either. I was 23 years old when I started hunting, but I didn't have decoys, had no adult to show me the right way or anything. I generally would prefer to shoot a bird out of the air, but wouldn't think less of somebody that did it another way. 8)