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Good luck and keep us posted
Good luck and keep us posted
Henry mountain buffalo
Any One been down on the Henry's within the last couple weeks ? My dad's cow hunt is going on right now and this last weekend we went down and didn't find a thing. Has anybody been seeing any Buffalo down there?where could we start looking for them? We hunted all over the horn coyote benches mud Springs area.
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Went back to Henry's for the buffalo. Hunted triangular Mesa. Stevens Mesa. Air plain springs. Still no buffalo. Looks like it will be tag soup
Call the fish and game or hire a short flight in a plane before you give up. A OIL tag is too valuable to give up on.
Did you hit the Cave Flats area? Tarantula Mesa? Wildcat?
We hunted triantula Mesa but cave flat is closed to 4 wheelers.
Do you have access to horses or is your dad strong enough to hike? Cave Flat is typically a great money spot when the findings are tough.
Also, just a reminder to slow down. When I shot my cow in 2012, there were several groups who had driven right past them (one group multiple times even while I was cleaning mine). They will shock you how they can disappear in the tiniest little fold in the land.
Also, just a reminder to slow down. When I shot my cow in 2012, there were several groups who had driven right past them (one group multiple times even while I was cleaning mine). They will shock you how they can disappear in the tiniest little fold in the land.
We drove to the gate but it's closed. To hike in my dad would be ok I think but we have no horses so a pack out would have killed us. I think it's like 6 miles in and then we have never been there so I would not know where to go from there.
I had a tag a few years ago and the same thing happened. People drove right past them not seeing them. I shot mine with no problem at mud springs. This year has been vastly different. I must be the one driving past them.
Look on here and on KSL there are people with horses who will pack out your game for you....We drove to the gate but it's closed. To hike in my dad would be ok I think but we have no horses so a pack out would have killed us. I think it's like 6 miles in and then we have never been there so I would not know where to go from there.
Renting out a pilot wouldn't be a bad idea. Shoot...that just tells you where they are. You still have to make it happen. Give it everything you can throw at it!
Saw a bunch down near mud springs and glassing off of mount pennel tower directly to the west on the rifle deer hunt.
Best of Luck!
Best of Luck!
Wouldn't this be against the law?Renting out a pilot wouldn't be a bad idea. Shoot...that just tells you where they are. You still have to make it happen. Give it everything you can throw at it!
From the guidebook:
"In addition, you may not use any type of
aircraft, from 48 hours before any big game
hunt begins through 48 hours after any big
game hunting season ends, to perform any of
the following activities:
•Locate, or attempt to observe or locate,
any protected wildlife
Flying slowly at low altitudes, or hovering,
circling or repeatedly flying over an area where
protected wildlife is likely to be found, may
be used as evidence that you've violated the
restrictions above."
Well, technically it isn't a restricted airspace. So if you just happened to fly by, site seeing, and spot some buffalo......Wouldn't this be against the law?
From the guidebook:
"In addition, you may not use any type of
aircraft, from 48 hours before any big game
hunt begins through 48 hours after any big
game hunting season ends, to perform any of
the following activities:
•Locate, or attempt to observe or locate,
any protected wildlife
Flying slowly at low altitudes, or hovering,
circling or repeatedly flying over an area where
protected wildlife is likely to be found, may
be used as evidence that you've violated the
restrictions above."
I am not saying break the rules. I am saying that one would be extremely hard to enforce.
hard to enforce? Why?
FWIW -- we have rules and policies here at work that would be very difficult to "enforce" (ie: control whether a user can or cannot do it). However, we do have paper documents that say "user will not do this...". If the user doesn't follow those rules, they get fired.
Why are hunters any different?
The rule says "don't do it". Why should we determine whether or not we do "it" by how difficult it would be to enforce "it"?
FWIW -- we have rules and policies here at work that would be very difficult to "enforce" (ie: control whether a user can or cannot do it). However, we do have paper documents that say "user will not do this...". If the user doesn't follow those rules, they get fired.
Why are hunters any different?
The rule says "don't do it". Why should we determine whether or not we do "it" by how difficult it would be to enforce "it"?
So what happens if you're on a commercial flight and you're looking out the window and see deer, elk, ducks etc while you're landing or taking off and decide...hey a good place to hunt. I mean realistically that can happen especially with duck hunting. Are you automatically in violation of the law. So whenever I travel for work and fly over the marshes does that mean I cannot now go duck hunting? Not trying to cause a stink but the law is the law and the letter of the law doesn't leave any room for deviation. What if you're on s sightseeing trip and happen to see deer or elk in an area where you may want to hunt and it's during hunting season....see what I am talking about?Well, technically it isn't a restricted airspace. So if you just happened to fly by, site seeing, and spot some buffalo......
I am not saying break the rules. I am saying that one would be extremely hard to enforce.
Except for the regulation cited talks about big game hunts, not duck hunting.So what happens if you're on a commercial flight and you're looking out the window and see deer, elk, ducks etc while you're landing or taking off and decide...hey a good place to hunt. I mean realistically that can happen especially with duck hunting.
So, you have a deer or elk tag, and the season for that tag is open. Now you want me to believe that instead of out hunting for that animal, you are out just doing a little sightseeing tour trip, which coincidentally just happens to be on the unit that you have a tag and the season is going?What if you're on s sightseeing trip and happen to see deer or elk in an area where you may want to hunt and it's during hunting season....see what I am talking about?
And you expect me to believe this? We can find a ridiculous scenario that complicates every law on the books if we try hard enough. Let's be reasonable here, people.
This would be hard to enforce. The amount of time to catch one person would be significant, and law enforcement would have to determine if it is worth the effort. It would also be hard to enforce me not littering on my backpacking trip into the Wind Rivers next time I go. Does that mean I should just drop wrappers everywhere, since it's not likely at all that I will be caught? I guess we have to decide for ourselves if we are going to follow the law. Hiring a plane and flying over the Henrys right now to locate bison, although a fantastic idea, would be illegal. And I'm glad it is. Can you imagine if this was allowed?
Is it legal if somebody else were to go up in the plane?
I asked about this when we hunted in Alaska and commercial air travel doesn't count. The float trip in though DID count, couldn't hunt until the next day there. Thats Alaska rules though... commercial travel probably doesn't count here either.
-DallanC
-DallanC
That was a thought I started to bring up. What if you hired the plane and had a hunting buddy go up for you that did not have a permit for that area....interesting thought because it clearly does not violate the letter of the law.Is it legal if somebody else were to go up in the plane?
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