Well last year me and my brother in law hit holmes on christmas but he moved to cali a couple months ago so me and my dad went out today. There from about 2 till 4:30. I ended up with one bow and my dad ended up with four. I missed and lost a lot, dad did the same but with twice as many. Pretty tough to get a bite today even with a fish finder. Ice was about 2 inches with some slush on top.