[HOGAN]

Does anyone know where i would be able to find a ballistics chart for a .270? I was thinking I would go out in the destert and try some 500 yard shots and see how high % that shot would be. I know the stories are going to be coming in so I want to try first hand before I complain about it.

 

[wileywapati]

Joey check any of the reloading manuals. hornady used to have a really good
two book set.

500 yards with a .270 just like with the 90 yard bow shot just hold a little high and into the wind.

 

[Extex]

Get all the info for your bullet - weight, BC, mv - if you do not know those your ammo manufacturer should have the info on their websites. Go to Hornady.com and put your info into their ballistic calculator and you will have a chart for your bullet. Take the chart into the desert and shoot at 500 yds. Check how close it is. The key to an accurate calculation is the MV. The numbers off the manufacturers box should be close but it will not be exact. There are several ballistic calculators out there - do a search - they don't replace actual practice at 500 yds though - most folks think their gun is a tack driver at 100 with 1 inch groups. Its really not when they go to flinging bullets down range over 400 yds laying on a rock in the wind with adrenaline kicked in and should not be shooting 500 yds. I will not do it & my pet 270 will shoot 1/2 groups all day @ 100 2 inches high with Fed Prem ammo and ballistic tip bullets - at 400 that is a six ich group 19 inches low - at 500 it is a 12 inch group about 36 inches low. I probably could do better if I reloaded and not used off the shelf ammo but I just know my limitations and stick to them :wink:

 

[one hunting fool]

Hogan,
I can not believe what I am hearing about 500 yard shots. Of course they are not for everyone but if you have been trained to shoot them they are quite effective. Granted I have never shot a 270 more than 200 yards but with my 223 and my 22-250 and even my sons 243 these shots are simple angle and trajectory compensate for wind. Same thing they teach in boot camp to 18 year olds.
Maybe the ethics police should give some things a rest.

 

[Riverrat77]

Hogan,
I can not believe what I am hearing about 500 yard shots. Of course they are not for everyone but if you have been trained to shoot them they are quite effective. Granted I have never shot a 270 more than 200 yards but with my 223 and my 22-250 and even my sons 243 these shots are simple angle and trajectory compensate for wind. Same thing they teach in boot camp to 18 year olds.
Maybe the ethics police should give some things a rest.

Would you be shooting a 500 yard shot just to say you did it or because you honestly couldn't get any closer? Is shooting that far justified for taking a trophy animal, or any animal or would it be better to hold off, get closer to where its more of a supposed "slam dunk" at 200 or 300 yards? Granted, this is for a rifle, not somebody with a muzzleloader or a bow. 8) I'd imagine that any hunter worth their salt could actually get closer than 500 yards.... the only folks that I could see shooting that far are guys that do it all year long, with precision instruments (high power scopes, finely tuned rifles and one he!! of a good rest) that have proven they can take game at those distances and could quite honestly get a lot closer than most of us if they really wanted to.... average Joe out there with some thrown together rifle/scope combo he shot five times at Lee Kay the day before the hunt shouldn't be even thinking about that shot.

This is just an opinion..... I have no doubt that Hogan would get much, much closer if it was possible.... and it appears that based on his first post, that the 500 yard thing is to satisfy his curiousity more than be used in an actual hunting situation.

 

[Treehugnhuntr]

Half of the yahoos? I'd say closer to 97%.

 

[one hunting fool]

I am saying that if someone took a 500 yard shot that the ethics police should not be jumping all over him for taking it. I have seen shots made with old army issue m1 rifles that are essentially 30.06 make these shots with ease I am not saying I could make this shot but I have witnessed this personally with OPEN sights. My drill sergeant at Ft. Benning had our platoon leader do it to prove it could be done. Do I think it is a shot for everyone?
No, but I am not going to jump on the unethical band wagon just because it is not a shot my son or wife should make. At 400 yards with 55 grn psp bullets my 22-250 drops 24". Would I shoot a deer with it? You bet if it's all I had. Do I hunt deer with it? No I prefer my 30.06 my daughter shoots a 243 and the drop at 400 yards is 24.3" with 95grn nos. would I let he shoot a deer at that distance with the little 243 no but it is not the same thing. I know what her limits are. All I am saying is that we should not judge someone for the shots they make if you do not know the person personally. Oh just so you know the 270 drops 25.8" at 400 yards with 135 grn er bullet about 4 ft for 500 yrds
Here is a link http://www.pacinfo.com/~dropinsator/chart1.htm

 

[Treehugnhuntr]

The guns will outperform the shooters any day of the week. I WILL judge this type of behavior when I see it. It's easy to know if someone is capable or not when an animal is dragging it's hind quarters as a result of some unconscious person lobbing shots from distances they have no business shooting from. The gun may be capable of 500 yard shots, but rarely is the shooter.

 

[one hunting fool]

I WILL judge this type of behavior when I see it. It's easy to know if someone is capable or not when an animal is dragging it's hind quarters as a result of some unconscious person lobbing shots from distances they have no business shooting from.

too true and as a result I have seen this all to often my self. I have never personaly taken a big game animal at more than 150 yards and most have been alot closer. my first 3 point came running at me full blast because someone spooked him toward me and i shot at less than 30 feet he rolled to me and i had to jump out of the way to keep from getting knocked down. it was a heart stopper you don't get that at 500 yards