Frankly if you are claiming bigger than 20" and it is a trout I need visual evidence. I can't believe how many supposed 20" trout are caught on the green river every day that are really 17"-19" fish. I guess as men we ad 2" length naturually when estimating. That fish I caught last weekend we guessed at 20' could have been 21 or 19 we didn't have a tape so will never know but he was a pig and 4lbs may have been an under estimate. I like as much description as possible so if you have both quote them. It is always better to under estimate when you post so that people don't call B.S. on you numbers.... Thats my 3 cents...LOAH said: