I am sure i will catch a lot of crap for this post. I was browsing my Facebook this morning and saw a lot of posts from numerous people about how they killed their spike elk form 1407 yards and someone else killed a cow at 1620. There were probably 8-10 posts like this and none of them were under 1k yard shots. To me that seems more like shooting than hunting but I get it to each there own. I prefer to use a bow because it feels more like hunting. In my personal opinion if you can't get closer than 500 yards to an animal maybe you should practice stalking as well. It takes skill to hit something that far no doubt but isn't there a much bigger chance of you just wounding an animal at those ranges? Anyways I am not impressed with their kills and a few were some bigger 6 point bulls. I would have been more impressed if they actually put in the work to get in closer but thats just me. Rant over.