[Bux n Dux]

Quotes like this just rub me wrong...you have time for turkey hunting but not fishing? That's like saying you would rather go to the salon than to the football game!

Quite the opposite.

I just don’t have time for it in my life.

 

[Bux n Dux]

I can see the wheels turning at the DWR to make this a reality. Just pay a modest fee to the state to make it happen. That should help point creep...not.

Actually it probably would help in the long run. But the first 5 years of it would be awful as far as draw odds go

 

[taxidermist]

If points could be transferred, My grandkids would be having some huge smiles on their faces.

 

[CPAjeff]

If points could be transferred, My grandkids would be having some huge smiles on their faces.

They can, in a way. Just draw the tags and then mentor it to them. You still get to be present with the hunt, actually you have to, and then they pull the trigger.

 

[taxidermist]

They can, in a way. Just draw the tags and then mentor it to them. You still get to be present with the hunt, actually you have to, and then they pull the trigger.

I've actually considered that.

 

[CPAjeff]

I've actually considered that.

Honestly, I think you should. Both of my parents don't have the urge to kill a big game animal any longer, but I buy points for all the species that I can for each of them every year. My kids should have some pretty great tags in their youth, thanks to grandpa and grandma.

 

[TPrawitt91]

Looking for someone with 8+ LE turkey points looking to burn them this year on a CENTRAL tag for 2023, that I could do a group app with. I’d be willing to pay for your tag, new combo license if needed and reimbursement of your points that you’ve accumulated over the years. If you’re interested, send me a PM. Thanks!

Wish I could help man, only 6 points here.

 

[BPturkeys]

"Honestly, I think you should. Both of my parents don't have the urge to kill a big game animal any longer, but I buy points for all the species that I can for each of them every year. My kids should have some pretty great tags in their youth, thanks to grandpa and grand."

Hum, I got to think about this one for awhile. Something about using that "loop hole" doesn't feel just right.

Actually it isn't as simple as just having grandma draw a tag, loading the kids in the back seat and go hunting. There are many requirements that go along with the mentoring process that might make you re-think this idea. For example, the kid must be 18 or under, grandma actually has to be with the kid as he/she is hunting... and a whole host of rules that attempt to close any "loopholes". These are just a couple of a couple pages of rules; Here's the link to the Utah Mentoring program:

R657-67 – Utah Hunter Mentoring Program

This rule creates a hunting mentor program that will increase hunting opportunities for Utah families and provides the procedures under which a minor child may share the permit of another to take protected wildlife.

wildlife.utah.gov

 

[CPAjeff]

"Honestly, I think you should. Both of my parents don't have the urge to kill a big game animal any longer, but I buy points for all the species that I can for each of them every year. My kids should have some pretty great tags in their youth, thanks to grandpa and grand."

Hum, I got to think about this one for awhile. Something about using that "loop hole" doesn't feel just right.

Actually it isn't as simple as just having grandma draw a tag, loading the kids in the back seat and go hunting. There are many requirements that go along with the mentoring process that might make you re-think this idea. For example, the kid must be 18 or under, grandma actually has to be with the kid as he/she is hunting... and a whole host of rules that attempt to close any "loopholes". These are just a couple of a couple pages of rules; Here's the link to the Utah Mentoring program:

R657-67 – Utah Hunter Mentoring Program

This rule creates a hunting mentor program that will increase hunting opportunities for Utah families and provides the procedures under which a minor child may share the permit of another to take protected wildlife.

wildlife.utah.gov

Thanks for the link - believe me, I'm well versed with the process! Thankfully, both my parents are still fairly young and in great shape. What better than having grandpa sitting right next to his grandson when the trigger is pulled?! Or having grandma sitting right next to her granddaughter when the trigger is pulled?!

 

[Brookie]

I don't like the Youth Mentoring program, youth already has tags set aside for them. Grandpa and Grandma can still sit with Grandson or Daughter without having drawn a tag. To me this is a small part to point creep. People in the draw that are pilling up points when those tags could go to someone wanting to hunt Big Game. But whatever...... Utah doesn't have a hunter recruiting problem.

 

[MrShane]

I don’t like the Youth Mentor program either.
Youth need to earn their tags like we do.
I do like that Grandma can still buy points and then group apply with granddaugther and average points to BOTH draw.
Nothing better than having Grandma talked in to picking up a rifle and hunting alongside granddaughter and BOTH filling tags.
I watched my Grandma and Mom put down a lot of Deer in my youth.
Incredible memories.

 

[taxidermist]

If I did draw the OIL tag, I'd more than likely let the oldest grandson shoot it. I'd be there with them and not have an issue whatsoever with who pulls the trigger. Either way, the shoulder mount would be going to one of them anyway after I kick the bucket.

 

[Bux n Dux]

"Honestly, I think you should. Both of my parents don't have the urge to kill a big game animal any longer, but I buy points for all the species that I can for each of them every year. My kids should have some pretty great tags in their youth, thanks to grandpa and grand."

Hum, I got to think about this one for awhile. Something about using that "loop hole" doesn't feel just right.

Actually it isn't as simple as just having grandma draw a tag, loading the kids in the back seat and go hunting. There are many requirements that go along with the mentoring process that might make you re-think this idea. For example, the kid must be 18 or under, grandma actually has to be with the kid as he/she is hunting... and a whole host of rules that attempt to close any "loopholes". These are just a couple of a couple pages of rules; Here's the link to the Utah Mentoring program:

R657-67 – Utah Hunter Mentoring Program

This rule creates a hunting mentor program that will increase hunting opportunities for Utah families and provides the procedures under which a minor child may share the permit of another to take protected wildlife.

wildlife.utah.gov

It’s actually quite a simple process and really easy to follow said rules. You want to complain about lack of opportunities, but hesitate at the idea of taking advantage of a great opportunity

 

[BPturkeys]

Well, ok, since you put it that way I guess I'll make up my mind. Looks like nothing more than a gimmick to legalize party hunting it me. Grandma draws a tag, of which she has no intention of using, and is for the intent purpose of someone else shooting the game.
In the old days we called that party hunting, not a legal opportunity to go hunting. Times have changed since we monetized hunting. Actually, I have no real problem with the spirit of the Mentoring Program but somehow when manipulated for the purpose of accumulating points to just be passed onto someone else...Hum, oh well, ain't my problem any more. You young guys will figure it all out.