Magnified Scopes in 2016

So from the link you attached, where do I click to find the muzzleloader proposals? I looked in the November proposals and couldn't find them.

nevermind, i found it. Thanks for posting

On muzzleloaders, I wish they'd allow the primer, powder and bullet to be in a solid 1 piece casing and also a magazine for extra rounds ... I'm sure the division will propose that in 2017.

utahgolf said:

On muzzleloaders, I wish they'd allow the primer, powder and bullet to be in a solid 1 piece casing and also a magazine for extra rounds ... I'm sure the division will propose that in 2017.

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LOL

I think i like the proposal. My eyesight is very messed up and this will allow me to see the animal much better to make a clean shot. Not to mention i will be able to shoot 4 or 500 yards now like everybody else(sarcasm here)

Utahgolf-- Thanks for the laugh!

Lunker- good to see you are getting on the LR train. Having hunted with a magnifying, variable power scope on my ML I can assure you that you can be shooting out to 400 yards if you have a decent ML and spend some time getting to know your scope. (no sarcasm here)

Now, I wonder if the FS will change its policy for me to ride my motorcycle on the trails along the Front. My knees aren't what they once were.......

There are several motorcycle accessible trails on the front that quads arent allowed on.:grin:

utahgolf said:

On muzzleloaders, I wish they'd allow the primer, powder and bullet to be in a solid 1 piece casing and also a magazine for extra rounds ... I'm sure the division will propose that in 2017.

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Dont forget the gps tracking device inside the slug! ;-)

RandomElk16 said:

I am also buying one of these if the rule passes:

http://www.gunwerks.com/Shooting-Systems/muzzleLoader

I mean, they have only used it to kill at 700. But I google guns a lot so I should be able to swing 1000 yards with that. Suddenly ML just got a whole lot easier.

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Due to the locking lugs on the action, they dont count as a muzzleloader to the BATF, and will need a FFL transfer. There is a site I follow that hardcore people are doing incredible things to smokepoles... if you can still call them that. Most of them are now dropping to 40cal and the ranges are incredible. They are building them off Rem700 actions.

-DallanC

As my eyes deteriorate, I can see a point in the future where I'll have to give up smokepole hunting w/ 1x scopes, so only due to that point would I support a 2x magnification change.

1x scopes actually makes the image smaller, so a 2x scope would only make the target appear slightly larger.

I am opposed to any magnification greater than 2x on muzzleloaders.


-DallanC

DallanC said:

As my eyes deteriorate, I can see a point in the future where I'll have to give up smokepole hunting w/ 1x scopes, so only due to that point would I support a 2x magnification change.

1x scopes actually makes the image smaller, so a 2x scope would only make the target appear slightly larger.

I am opposed to any magnification greater than 2x on muzzleloaders.

-DallanC

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One other thing on my muzzle loaders that I have found is that if I am using my inline with a smaller rear sight I can't focus on both it the front sight and the animal so that is why I went to a peep sight. On my side lock with a larger rear sight I have no problem focusing on all three at the same time.

If I may add;
Ya cuz there's not enough dough heads up there now that have no idea what they are doing so lets add some more by continuing to make it easier!!!!!!! What happened to primitive?????? I want it back. This kind of crap is what the General season is for.

a 2 power scope would have been real nice last night on a spike I had coming in to me it was a real race to see if it got to dark for proper sight alignment or if I would have to let him pass, with a two power scope the situation would have been greatly improved and while anything over 2 power I cringe at it would have helped to have had a bit more light and magnification. by the way I had to pass on the shot :neutral:

mack1950 said:

a 2 power scope would have been real nice last night on a spike I had coming in to me it was a real race to see if it got to dark for proper sight alignment or if I would have to let him pass, with a two power scope the situation would have been greatly improved and while anything over 2 power I cringe at it would have helped to have had a bit more light and magnification. by the way I had to pass on the shot :neutral:

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almost as if stricter regs gives those animals more of a chance ;-)

Sign me up for the early season, orange free, single shot rifle season.-----SS

Springville Shooter said:

Sign me up for the early season, orange free, single shot rifle season.-----SS

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Magnifying scopes will make the popular Muzzy hunt even more popular..:!:..

goofy elk said:

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Magnifying scopes will make the popular Muzzy hunt even more popular..:!:..

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I agree with you to a point but I know a lot of rifle hunters that just don't want to deal with what you have to with a black powder rifle. I have even tried to talk them into it since it has been a easy tag to draw and the weather is usually so much better the end of September than the middle of October. But they refuse to even think about it.

Perhaps it will happen when they allow a higher magnification scope on the ML hunts, it will be interesting. I do know that if it does happen I have a real nice 3x9x40 scope that is going to go onto mine, but then I'll have to pick up another ML for hunting out of state in Colorado.