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3-6" is crazy. I watched the radar develop and was shocked. These storms are rather late in the day for the monsoon and producing epic amounts of precipitation.

I'm sure I could welcome a few young folks into our small house and introduce them to the realities of raising an infant. Maybe show them my book collection. Show them the ways of homemaking. I have no problem getting help getting chores done. Maybe listen to a podcast together. 😁
 

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It's always hard to know what's influenced by climate change but whatever the case "it seems" like these erratic events are happening more often. Definitely could be biased and wrong on that but it's tough not to be curious with sad disasters like this:

 

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While I don't believe we/science have a full grasp on the phenomenon, it seems to me that the hard "deniers" are increasingly living with their head in the sand.

I was heartened to see Rep. Curtis from good ol' Utah start a "climate caucus" of like minded moderate/conservative legislators to support a more reasoned political response than what we have been getting from some on the far right.
 

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Ya it's been raining all afternoon. The mountain has been pounded. We were up on Summit a couple of hours ago and it was pouring. We could not even see Cedar or Cedar Mountain.
Enoch got pounded twice today.

Also......Pinto has had flash floods warnings two different times today. And Lund got drilled hard again.
 

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We went through a massive storm on the hill Saturday.

Great rain in town today. My backyard would indicate it wasn't the first time since we were gone. Amazing monsoon so far.
 

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Ya it's been raining all afternoon. The mountain has been pounded. We were up on Summit a couple of hours ago and it was pouring. We could not even see Cedar or Cedar Mountain.
Enoch got pounded twice today.

Also......Pinto has had flash floods warnings two different times today. And Lund got drilled hard again.
I came down to Cedar and went up the Mountain for the first time this year last weekend. Weird year for me. I was expecting the worst, but the mountain didn't look nearly as bad as I thought it might be considering the severity of the drought situation. I saw a bachelor group of about five 2 to 3 year old bulls and a few small bucks. They all looked to be in pretty good condition! Looking out across Crystal it looked like some light rain was starting to come down over your way. Dark clouds were starting to roll in and the smell of petrichor (tip of the hat to MrShane) was in the air.
 

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Maybe Governor Cox knew what he was doing after all?

Very happy to hear about the rain you’re getting down south. It certainly is desperately needed.
 

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I think it's fair to say I'm not the type to give credit to a politician for a typical weather pattern appearing.

Grateful for the moisture though, as it was desperate down here. This far we've been spared the worst possible outcomes despite a close call in Enterprise and Mammoth.
 

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I think it's fair to say I'm not the type to give credit to a politician for a typical weather pattern appearing.
If all this is just “a typical weather pattern” then why the heck were people so critical of a perceived lack of action? All he had to do is just wait for the typical weather to get here.

I would impeach you with your prior written statements on that one! Bring on more rain.
 

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Are you arguing the monsoon is not a "typical weather pattern"? Persistent drought is the divergence from that pattern over a long period, as it negatively impacts typical expectations and behavior of the region. If expecting Cox to behave accordingly is justification for my impeachment than count me in as a willing volunteer.

If you are going to hold miracles as a standard of analysis than we are operating in different intellectual galaxies. We might as well point that out early in your criticism. And yes, the self-own you just had about "all he had to do is just wait for the typical weather to get here" is exactly why relying solely (see below) on prayer as a government policy and request isn't valid approach to conservation and management of public resources.

The scientific approach would be to talk about the odds of a monsoon forming before and after Cox's request. If I remember correctly, NOAA's climate model found an equal chance of potential precipitation outcomes. That would be a simple bet in Vegas if I were a politician.

As to the reason we criticize... there is no harm, water-wise, but significant benefit to escalating the state response to our persistent drought. Yes, we are still in a long term drought and will be no matter how significant one monsoon is. His response to admitting what we were doing wasn't enough was to solely ask citizens pray. His speech and executive action is the public record that supports that accurate summary. He's since incorporated prayer into other actual measurable action/policy but it's still not enough as our reservoirs empty.

I voted for Cox but I find criticism of a political figure's mistakes not only fair game but also a fundamental way of pressuring them into better action. He's done "better", on this issue, but barely. Cs may get degrees but they don't exactly instill confidence that our government is doing what's necessary to protect our public water during this persistent drought.

I expect better even with the development of a good monsoon pattern this far. You seem content with his behavior. We simply diverge there and that is fine.
 

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Summit mountain and Brian Head have seen really good rain as well.
We were up on top of Summit last night about 5 and it was pouring with lightening all around. We decided it was probably best not to be up on top.............

I might buzz up towards our place this afternoon, but it is already getting good big dark clouds up that way before noon. And I'm hearing thunder. So.....maybe not !!
 

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So I headed up tp our cabin about 2 pm. Figured I would not even get close.....
As I drove up right hand canyon it was raining HARD. Had wipers on fast and they would hardly keep up. When I got to the face above the C it was a light drizzle. When I got to the Y it was dry. Crazy!!

When I got to the cabin it was totally dry and only .10 in my gauge. The storms Sunday and Monday had gone all around Miner's Peak, but pretty much missed us. Couldn't believe it.
it was storming over by Duck Creek and over towards Brian Head. That is my luck anymore.......
There is still supposed to be a bunch more on the way. I'm still keeping toes, eyes, and fingers crossed.
 
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