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The Mossback site has been updated showing some of the great animals taken by Mossback hunters in 2007 for those who like to see "horn porn".
 

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WoooHOOO I have been waiting for them to update it for months. :D :D :D
 

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I even see ole Bart :D guiding Mike Stauner :D and him guiding Cary Velerio. Awesome bulls Bart. Maybe I can hire you one of these days
 

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Cary Valerio was "new2this" on the old DWR forum. He took an awesome bull at point blank range with is bow on the tenth day of his hunt. I had a great time chasing big stinky bulls this fall. 8)
 

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Very cool, they advertise hunting videos are the videos very good?? The primos videos seem real well made, are these about the the same better or worse? Have never shot a bull even close to anything on that page. WOW! :shock: :oops: Dave
 

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I much prefer the Primos video series. Better photography and the guys on the Primos videos are always smiling, laughing, and having a great time.
I will never spend another penny on anything from Mossback.
I hope you have a better experience than I did.
 

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The videos are second to none!
I just received the 3 Big game ones (cants remember the name)
I've been asking Doyle to make some moose vids for quite some time, he put them all together (bison, pronghorn, bear, RMG, RMBH) in the volumes, I watched the first last night! AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME!
thanks Doyle!
and thank you too Bart!
 

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Not at all familiar with 'Mossback'. Who are these guys and why do they get so much flak?
 

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Just loged on and looked the trophy room over. Impressive animals.

This is what I love about Mossback. Under each photo they have:

Gieded by: Doyal Moss. 8) Assisted by:(herders, chasers, blockers, spotters, camera men, Grip, Key grip, Lighting specialist, Stunt coordinater, coffee boy, wheeler tech, gunsmith, taxidermist, skinners, capers, meat packers, and runners.)

What would all these guys be without a "Gunner" Harassing wildlife I supose... :?

I love you like a brother Bart, but I still can't stand Mossback. Sorry. :|
 

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What is there to hate about Mossback????
 

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Tex you sure have some negative thoughts toward anyone successful enough to capture some great hunts on film. My question to you is, who do you like then?
 

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Mossback is some of the honest most hard working people you will ever find. I think Tex-o-bob has just heard a few bad rumors and never really took the time to find out if they were true.
 

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Tex you sure have some negative thoughts toward anyone successful enough to capture some great hunts on film. My question to you is, who do you like then?
I'll tell you who I like. Dwight Schue, Chuck Adams, Jim Shokey, Larry D. Jones, Ted Fuc*ing Nugent, Will Premos just to name a few. Ya, I know they all have paid money to harvest animals, But they HUNTED for their animals. They did'nt hire a GANG of guys to find, film, herd, block/buy other hunters out, and hogtie an animal to a tree so they could fly in and SHOOT the animal and then be back in the office before lunch.

I don't hate Doyal Moss. I don't know Doyal Moss. He's probably a nice guy. I hate the way Doyal Moss makes a living. I question his Ethics, I question his morals, and I question our fish and game for enabling him by making it legal to "Bounty Hunt" for OUR trophy animals.

I'm NOT the only one who shares these thoughts. Many people think that putting a huge dollar sign on trophy animals will only corrupt the system. And, it ALWAYS will. Period.

As far as the stories about Doyal Moss and his questionable hunting practices... All I can say is, where there is smoke, there is usually fire. I don't know if all the bad storeis are true, but I do know of two storeis regarding this persons hunting practices that ARE true and that bother me greatly.

But alas, As long as our state and special intrest groups enable this to happen it always will. And there is NOTHING any of us can do about it. :cry:

Now, enough about that, lets all just go to Mossbacks web sight and enjoy looking at the fine trophy animals we have in our state. Thank you SFW!!! :twisted:
 

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I'll tell you who I like. Dwight Schue, Chuck Adams, Jim Shokey, Larry D. Jones, Ted Fuc*ing Nugent, Will Premos just to name a few. Ya, I know they all have paid money to harvest animals, But they HUNTED for their animals. They did'nt hire a GANG of guys to find, film, herd, block/buy other hunters out, and hogtie an animal to a tree so they could fly in and SHOOT the animal and then be back in the office before lunch.
A lot these guys hunt on private ranches. Doyle hunts on public land. Doyle doesnt have a Gang of guides and go after just one animal like you are talking about. They dont block the roads like you are saying.

I don't know Doyal Moss. He's probably a nice guy
You say you dont know Doyle, but yet you are quick to judge him. How can you judge someone that you dont know :shock: :shock:

As far as the stories about Doyal Moss and his questionable hunting practices... All I can say is, where there is smoke, there is usually fire. I don't know if all the bad storeis are true, but I do know of two storeis regarding this persons hunting practices that ARE true and that bother me greatly.
If these stories are true then how come no one has busted Doyle???? Doyle is one of the most honest person I know, but of course you don't that since you dont know Doyle.
 

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TEX-O-BOB said:
I'll tell you who I like. Dwight Schue, Chuck Adams, Ted Fuc*ing Nugent, Will Primos, David Long, Cameron Hanes just to name a few. Ya, I know they all have paid money to harvest animals, But they HUNTED for their animals.

I don't hate Doyal Moss. I don't know Doyal Moss.
Sorry Tex, I threw a couple of my own names in there and deleted the two I don't really know all that well (Shockey is a muzzleloading guy right?). I like em for the same reason.... they're guys who do things that I respect, in what I consider to be the "right" way. You know, pretty evenly matched, not totally stacking the deck for video or money's sake. About the second part I copied... I don't know the guy, but I also am way sketchy about things I've heard.... there just is too much stuff that flies around for it to be done without some reason. It sure does make for some long discussions on here and the guy does get some pretty nice animals to lie still though. :lol:
 

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I only have one question,I have heard from an unreilable source, That the monster elk taken this year in the photo, The one with the support crew, was taken by four wheelers,radios and hearding the animal? Is this legal and did it happen. First i do not believe you could have a group of professional guides and sportsman, all in on an illegal hunt. It would just grind someone wrong, second mr doyle moss has built a reputation as far as i can tell for taking big bulls and mulies, this was not his first record animal and probably not his last. Someone of this caliber would not risk it all on one hunt, or a string of hunts for that matter. no matter what the animal. Being new to the mossback name i know very little, however i can tell he has done this for years and years. If he was taking animals illegally some one somwhere down the line would have opened their mouths and it would have made it back to the DWR and he would have been investigated. From a laymans persective mr Mossback hires top guides, men that have spent their entire lives dedicated to the outdoors and the wildlife they hunt. The guides have vast amounts of patience and experience to make sure paying clients get the trophy he or she has paid for. The hunts i would guess do have quite a support staff, the best guides always do! Their are stories upon stories about some hunter getting ripped off, his meat spoiling,horses dying,bad food ect,ect, you cannot fault him for having a large staff, that is a plus in my book, however you will be charged accordingly. Mr mossback i would tend to guess will always have a microscope on him because he is so succsessful. Another of the stories i have heard was that a client had drawn a special tag and mr mossback guided him for a special rate because the man was on a tight budget, all mr mossback asked was that he gets rights to showthe bull taken in his video and get credit for guiding the gentelman on the hunt. And much preperation went into the hunt, on the fist morning of the actual hunt the client and guide found the bull that had long been watched, the hunter only packed 1 or 2 cartriges on an unsighted in rifle, (whitch he had previouly swore an oath it was dead on.) and a complete debalce ensued, in whitch require mr mossback sending support crews to wally world to buy ammo and also get the clients rifle sighted in. I do not know the all the little details to this story, but the end result was that the client ended up with a utah number one record book animal, this supposedly took place approx 3 to 4 yrs ago not sure as of the date. the whole while mr doyle was paitent and understanding, like i said i do not know enough to talk intelegently about his business these are just a few of the things i have heard. and some observations of mine. please elighten if i am completely off base. But as far as i can tell if the discretionary funds are avaliable i would defiantly book a hunt with some of this mans guides. With my points that is somthing i am really considering. You wait a long time with the bonus point system, it almost turns out to be twice or three times in your life. shoot hire someone do it right! That as far as i can tell is what Mr Doyle Mossback is all about. Dave
 

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If these stories are true then how come no one has busted Doyle????
Nobody has busted him because what Doyle does is not illegal...Yet.

They dont block the roads like you are saying.
Did I say he blocked roads? NO. But, that is one story I've heard. But that's all it is untill I see it with my own eyes, a STORY.

The two things that happend that I have a problem with HAPPEND. But I'm not going to get into that, It's a wast of my time, and quite frankly I don't give a sh*t anymore.
 

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TEX-O-BOB said:
I'll tell you who I like. Dwight Schue, Chuck Adams, Ted Fuc*ing Nugent, Will Primos, David Long, Cameron Hanes just to name a few. Ya, I know they all have paid money to harvest animals, But they HUNTED for their animals.

I don't hate Doyal Moss. I don't know Doyal Moss.
Sorry Tex, I threw a couple of my own names in there and deleted the two I don't really know all that well (Shockey is a muzzleloading guy right?). I like em for the same reason.... they're guys who do things that I respect, in what I consider to be the "right" way. You know, pretty evenly matched, not totally stacking the deck for video or money's sake. About the second part I copied... I don't know the guy, but I also am way sketchy about things I've heard.... there just is too much stuff that flies around for it to be done without some reason. It sure does make for some long discussions on here and the guy does get some pretty nice animals to lie still though. :lol:
I left out Tred Barta too. Love him or hate him, he's the MAN!
 

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Sounds like another bash Doyle Moss. How can you say Ted nugent, Will Primos and Jim Shockey do it right when they hunt on private ranches? Jim Shockey has guides when he goes to Alaska and Canada. I like these guys to but to say they do it the "right" way and Doyle does it the "wrong" way is very comical. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think most people are jealous because Doyle is able to find these great trophys. Anyone of those bulls could have been killed by the average joe, but a lot of times the average joe isnt willing to put forth hours of scouting and glassing for these great animals and many of the average joe hunters arent willing to hold out for a trophy and many shoot the first bull they see.

Ask Pro how many bulls they pass up during their hunts. How many average joe hunters can even score a bull? Doyle and his guides help people kill great bulls because they pass on smaller bulls until they find that monster.
 
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