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Anyone know what the meaning of “Kyhv” is? Google didn’t help me. It kept trying to take me to Ukraine.

Squaw Peak in Utah County is now Kyhv Peak.

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Changing names of mountains.
Pathetic.
A squaw was just a name for a female Indian.
No different than if I call my better half my Wife.
I say it is more of an insult to the native Americans by changing the name.
What have we become?
 

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From what I understand Kyhv is the name of a female Ute or Paiute indigenous person from some time ago
I told my family about this change. I’ve got a 12 year old daughter that is the sweetest, kindest, most naive person I know. Her statement was essentially “everyone is changing everything because all words mean something different today than they did 5 years ago.”

I share that backstory to say this: isn’t that what “squaw” generally meant 50 years ago too? It seems to me with the way things are going they should avoid Native American terms entirely so in 10, 20, or 50 years they aren’t having the same conversation about changing it due to a term being derogatory or cultural appropriation. Name it after a bear or a fish. PETA will be upset by how offensive that is but we don’t care what they think. :LOL:

I don’t really have an opinion on whether the term is offensive or not. But native Americans very much were in support of removing this word from what I’ve read. I think it means something different to them than I ever thought or understood. This is how I explained it to my daughter in a way I felt she would understand: We are of the prominent faith here in Utah. Not long ago the president of our church asked us to no longer call ourselves “Mormons” and called on media and the general public to stop using that term as well. It’s not a term we want to be associated with any longer. These things happen. It’s not something I’m going to lose a lot of sleep over.

I asked this question because I legitimately couldn’t find the meaning in a few brief online searches.
 

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I don’t really have an opinion on whether the term is offensive or not. But native Americans very much were in support of removing this word from what I’ve read. I think it means something different to them than I ever thought or understood. This is how I explained it to my daughter in a way I felt she would understand: We are of the prominent faith here in Utah. Not long ago the president of our church asked us to no longer call ourselves “Mormons” and called on media and the general public to stop using that term as well. It’s not a term we want to be associated with any longer. These things happen. It’s not something I’m going to lose a lot of sleep over.
Well put. I'll never understand why people get bent out of shape over this kind of thing. Natives want us to change the name? Change the **** name and move on.
 

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In reading the op question my first thought was Know You Have Value.:unsure:
 

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I'm OK with renaming. Why?

Mount McKinley. Named after William Mckinley in 1896 by a gold prospector. What's wrong with this name? Well, it already had a name that had been used for centuries prior to white man showing up and giving "names" to everything. Denali is the name used by indigenous people for centuries. It means "the great one". A name very deserving of the mountain itself. I'm sure it was a great honor for William Mckinley, and maybe even the U.S., to name the mountain for him -- but Denal is far more grand and descriptive than Mckinley. It certainly has more meaning for those indigenous and non-indigenous people that have lived in the shadow this awe inspiring mountain.

If we have geographic points of interest that had names prior to whites showing up, then I'm fine with evaluating, and using the original Native American name if it is appropriate. Like Denali. I'll support those changes. I'm fine with working with Native Americans, and embracing their history and culture. If they came out and said they wanted to change the Grand Canyon to Ongtupqa, I'd support that change.

What does Kyhv mean? I have no idea. Maybe as some have eluded, it is a proper name that has no meaning at all, but rather honors a person from history? It would be nice to know.

I wish that our local tribes had an opportunity to be more involved with our local schools. That's something I thought would be appropriate with Cedar High School and their recent name change from Redmen to Reds. Why not have the local Piute Tribe work with Iron County Schools to incorporate some history of our local native people into our schools? Maybe we'd all learn a little bit more about the history of our country and lands?
 

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What PBH said, however.... and there is always a but..... taking the Redmen to Reds change for example, I have Piute, Navajo, and Hopi, friends that went to Cedar High and didn't want the change, they said that they are proud Redmen.
 

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The DWR offended me.
Can I rename this years hunting license to ‘Lifetime License’?
You guys will offend me if you say No.
Sure, and if you are from Parowan you are automatically ensured a life time year round hunting license with no paperwork needed.
 

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What PBH said, however.... and there is always a but..... taking the Redmen to Reds change for example, I have Piute, Navajo, and Hopi, friends that went to Cedar High and didn't want the change, they said that they are proud Redmen.
That's my whole point of working with the local tribes. Had CHS gone straight to the Piute Tribe, and worked with them on a real resolution, CHS wouldn't be the "reds" today. They might not be the "Redmen", but they might be something close that honored the history of the Native American people here in our area, and brought not just pride back to CHS, but some real understanding as well. Win / Win. Instead we got a lose / lose. Go redwolves. errrr....wolves! doh, I mean Reds! (what's a Red???). Ugh. Go Canyon View! :)
 

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Maybe we can step back and empathize with why the Natives might want a change instead of making such reductive statements.
Exactly. Names on landscapes have been fluid throughout civilization, so why should anybody get upset about changing a name that offends a specific group of people (even if that "group" is a subset of another demographic)?
 
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