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It's happening!
Royce deal makes more sense. Now, where is Don headed???
Royce deal makes more sense. Now, where is Don headed???
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Maybe he stays a little longer? 🤷♂️ (No fun going to the Knicks when they just signed the playoff nemesis that made him look bad?)
I have to hand it to dealin Danny, he got a decent haul for Rudy. A number 1 is a decent return but I was kinda sad to see Royce go.
I have to hand it to dealin Danny, he got a decent haul for Rudy. A number 1 is a decent return but I was kinda sad to see Royce go.
I don't know that excited is the word. I'm somewhat sad to see the National Monument and Royce leave. However, if we are going to blow it up, its nice to get decent salvage prices.
Yep, especially if Don is moving. Or maybe a buyout.
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Rudy was going to get traded. That was a foregone conclusion. So I ask PBH, with that knowledge, would you have preferred the Jazz get less assets in return?
It’s okay to be disappointed that Rudy was traded yet still excited that Ainge pulled off a trade that many around the NBA are saying “That is what I would have expected Durant to get traded for.” I think that’s worth being excited about. Of course, I could be a Debbie Downer and wish they got less, but then I’d be wrong too!
There are five 1st round picks in the coffers now they got in the last 24 hours. I expect some of them or all of them to be used in at least one, but probably two more trades. I’m pumping the brakes on the “blow it up rebuild” talk. I don’t see Ryan Smith being okay with a 5-7 year plan to become successful again. I have no clue if Mitchell is a part of their plan going forward or not.
It’s okay to be disappointed that Rudy was traded yet still excited that Ainge pulled off a trade that many around the NBA are saying “That is what I would have expected Durant to get traded for.” I think that’s worth being excited about. Of course, I could be a Debbie Downer and wish they got less, but then I’d be wrong too!
There are five 1st round picks in the coffers now they got in the last 24 hours. I expect some of them or all of them to be used in at least one, but probably two more trades. I’m pumping the brakes on the “blow it up rebuild” talk. I don’t see Ryan Smith being okay with a 5-7 year plan to become successful again. I have no clue if Mitchell is a part of their plan going forward or not.
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Of course I didn't want the Jazz to get less. I just wish it would have been Donovan instead of Gobert. But I get it.
Snyder saw it coming. Snyder obviously did not want to have the last year of his contract be a year that risked a losing season because he knew Gobert was gone. And Mitchell might be. Snyder wanted no part of coaching the Jazz without Gobert. Gobert made Snyder valuable - enough so that he was willing to step down and walk away for at least 1 year.
Will it take 5-7 years? I'm sure, like you said, Smith is not OK with a time frame that long, and is hoping to rebuild quickly. Maybe with Donovan as the centerpiece -- maybe without. Maybe Patrick Beverly will be our franchise player.
I guess we need to find someone new to name something after.
#PBToughUSCF
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He might not have much choice.Vanilla said:
Snyder saw it coming. Snyder obviously did not want to have the last year of his contract be a year that risked a losing season because he knew Gobert was gone. And Mitchell might be. Snyder wanted no part of coaching the Jazz without Gobert. Gobert made Snyder valuable - enough so that he was willing to step down and walk away for at least 1 year.
Will it take 5-7 years? I'm sure, like you said, Smith is not OK with a time frame that long, and is hoping to rebuild quickly. Maybe with Donovan as the centerpiece -- maybe without. Maybe Patrick Beverly will be our franchise player.
I guess we need to find someone new to name something after.
#PBToughUSCF
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I wouldn’t be able to tell ya, since I can’t watch them play 95% of the time this year.
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Same here. It's hard to get real interested when you can't watch the games.
Probably not a big deal this season, although the draft lottery in May could be much watch TV.
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I'm hoping Dealin' Danny will trade Bolerjack!
One has to wonder: who's going to watch the jazz this year?
Die-hards are losing interest with all the changes. And it's not just player changes. It's the ownership direction, color schemes, political agendas (ie: jazz dancers with facial hair???), TV deals, etc....
Casual fans have lost their "star" -- who will they want to watch on this team? Will they even have the right TV package to see them? What draw is there for the casual fan? Oh, wait -- the casual fan doesn't attend games for the game, but rather the concert and party going on during the game. I forgot...
New fans? Nope -- no chance of gaining new fans this year.
This is the beginning of the end.
I might actually start tying some flies again.
One has to wonder: who's going to watch the jazz this year?
Die-hards are losing interest with all the changes. And it's not just player changes. It's the ownership direction, color schemes, political agendas (ie: jazz dancers with facial hair???), TV deals, etc....
Casual fans have lost their "star" -- who will they want to watch on this team? Will they even have the right TV package to see them? What draw is there for the casual fan? Oh, wait -- the casual fan doesn't attend games for the game, but rather the concert and party going on during the game. I forgot...
New fans? Nope -- no chance of gaining new fans this year.
This is the beginning of the end.
I might actually start tying some flies again.
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For as smart of a guy we all keep claiming Ryan Smith to be, he's got this portion of the business really off track.
It will be interesting to see what I follow more closely:
Utah Jazz have an advantage here, just because local media will be pushing it in front of me.
vs.
Minnesota Timberwolves - because i am genuinely intrigued to see how their season unfolds with Gobert.
vs.
Cleveland -- because I think they are grossly over-rated, and will soon find out that Donovan can't carry a team.
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It would be ill-advised to blame Ryan Smith for broadcasting contracts that were signed long before either of us even knew this guy existed. What happens next, however, is squarely on his shoulders.
And I'm not a Ryan Smith apologist, just so we are clear. I have never claimed he was smart, at least that I remember. In fact, I don't think he has earned much credibility or benefit of the doubt at all , IMO. His "rebranding" was idiotic and an unmitigated disaster. The uniforms the Jazz will be wearing this season are hideous! That blew up in his face big time. We'll see if the Danny Ainge experience does as well. We need to wait 5 years before we can gauge that. Bookmark this thread! 🤣
Even 5 years might be too soon to evaluate it. Any Jazz fan thinking this has the possibility of being a quick rebuild is in for a wild and disappointing surprise. And that alone might make this experiment with Ainge a failure.
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