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I'm in the market for either a 20 or 28 gauge over/under or side x side. I never thought I'd be interested in a side x side, but I was handling one over the weekend and really liked the feel of it. My budget is $3k.

Over/under or side x side?

I've always been a Benelli fan, so I'm seriously contemplating a Benelli or Beretta if I go down the over/under route.
 

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I have a SKB SxS in 20ga and had a CZ SxS in 28ga. I loved the idea of them, but in reality really struggled to shoot them very well. Over/Under just naturally settles in like a Benelli semi auto and I shoot them just as well. The sight picture is so different, even with using one for 3 consecutive clay sessions and hunts, I still could not get used to the sight picture. The other issue I had with a SxS was the barrel got so hot during a good dove shoot, I could no longer wrap my fingers around the barrel. With that kind of budget, get a Beretta Silver Pigeon 28ga O/U with 28" barrels and then pick up a turkish SxS in 20ga with the extra to see if it is something you like.
 

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I shoot a side x side better than anything. I love the wider plane and it's what I grew up shooting. I also like that I don't have to break it open as far to clear the empties. But I love the look of over/under shotguns. I own several of both. For pretty, I like the over/under. For nostalgia and my own personal ability to shoot, I like the side x side.
 

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I'm in the market for either a 20 or 28 gauge over/under or side x side. I never thought I'd be interested in a side x side, but I was handling one over the weekend and really liked the feel of it. My budget is $3k.

Over/under or side x side?

I've always been a Benelli fan, so I'm seriously contemplating a Benelli or Beretta if I go down the over/under route.
I bought the SP in 28 a few years ago and use it on wild Roosters.
Not sure where you live but if willing to travel to south end of SL Country come on over and throw it up.
I am part owner in a private skeet field, if you can wait a month I will just take you there and you can shoot a round or two with it.
We will take Jerry with us!
 

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I bought the SP in 28 a few years ago and use it on wild Roosters.
Not sure where you live but if willing to travel to south end of SL Country come on over and throw it up.
I am part owner in a private skeet field, if you can wait a month I will just take you there and you can shoot a round or two with it.
We will take Jerry with us!
Dang, that's quite the offer! I'm out on the Wasatch Front frequently due to travel sports with my kids - I'll have to hit you up!

I'm really leaning toward the SP 28! I shot one in Argentina for doves and fell in love!
 

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I have owned 4 SxS's; 1 CZ Bobwhite and 3 Spanish Ugartechea's. I have also patterned an additional 10 or so that my buddies have from AYA's to Grulla. About 1 out of 4 or 5 will be well regulated where both barrels hit to the same point of aim. Most don't and when you pattern them be prepared to be disappointed. Most guys that shoot a SxS are for form over function. Often the right barrel will shoot to center point of aim and the left barrel will be off, usually low. It's a rare gun that fits a shooter and both barrels shoot to center, this is why most folks struggle with shooting a SxS, if they cared to pattern it which most don't. One of the Ugartechea's I had shot ok, still a bit off but good enough that I used it for a season. I sold all the others immediately after patterning them. The one I kept was a 12 gauge with 26" barrels, had ok wood. On a wild bobwhite hunt in Oklahoma, the dang thing started to shoot both barrels when one trigger was pulled. Talk about kick! That was my last straw with SxS's. I got back home, had a gunsmith fix it and I sold it. I shot them ok, but I think I am done with SxS's.

I have had much better luck with Over and Under's. Most of them are well regulated, especially good brands like Browning and Berretta, I have patterned probably 12 of these and they were all well regulated. The O&U CZ's are generally well regulated although I patterned one that was not. I own a couple Citori 725 Feathers and that is the gun I prefer. I will say I had to change out the lower firing pin and springs on both of them as they pitted overtime and I had a couple failure to fires. It was easy to do but if you think double guns are bombproof I would argue they are not and can have issues.

If you are looking for fancy wood, nice lines, and value the looks over the performance then go with a SxS, just be prepared to miss a few more birds unless you get lucky and find a good shooting gun. Most SxS guys are fine gentlemen and don't care about limiting out as much as just being out and about. That is not to say that there are not good guns out there, ya just have to search for em.

If you value function over fanciness then a good solid Over and Under is your ticket. Olympians win gold medals with over and under's for a reason. That's my soap box speech!
 

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I have always said, and further maintain.
SxS are for the people
O/U are for politicians.

Now, I own both and have to say that personally I love my SxS the most! Something about the feel is just great, and really connects you to your roots. But I am learning to love my O/U since I got it, and have been exploring a local political calling. Are they correlated? Most definitely!
 

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I'm in the market for either a 20 or 28 gauge over/under or side x side. I never thought I'd be interested in a side x side, but I was handling one over the weekend and really liked the feel of it. My budget is $3k.

Over/under or side x side?

I've always been a Benelli fan, so I'm seriously contemplating a Benelli or Beretta if I go down the over/under route.
Hey Jeff, I have a Ringneck 28G SXS. I absolutely love carrying and shooting this gun. I hunt roosters, forest grouse, quail, huns, sharptail, and Ptarmigan with it and smash them all. It took me a few shots to get used to the double barrel sight plain but seriously only a couple shots and now I go back n forth shooting it and my SBE with no issues. Before the Ringneck I did have the Bobwhite. I wasn't a fan of the double trigger. I found it much more difficult to go back n forth with it and my SBE. Forgetting whether I was shooting a single trigger or double trigger cost me numerous birds. I personally dont really care for the feel or look of the English stock either.

I have my eye on the Franchi and Fausti OU's. I know Cabelas in Lehi had a couple of the Franchi 28G OU in their gun vault show room yesterday when I was there. One was a slighltly more modest version for $1599 and the other was a prettier option for $1899. I want one in the 16G as I already have a 28 but I really liked that Franchi OU. Really felt good in my hands.
 

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Hey Jeff, I have a Ringneck 28G SXS. I absolutely love carrying and shooting this gun. I hunt roosters, forest grouse, quail, huns, sharptail, and Ptarmigan with it and smash them all. It took me a few shots to get used to the double barrel sight plain but seriously only a couple shots and now I go back n forth shooting it and my SBE with no issues. Before the Ringneck I did have the Bobwhite. I wasn't a fan of the double trigger. I found it much more difficult to go back n forth with it and my SBE. Forgetting whether I was shooting a single trigger or double trigger cost me numerous birds. I personally dont really care for the feel or look of the English stock either.

I have my eye on the Franchi and Fausti OU's. I know Cabelas in Lehi had a couple of the Franchi 28G OU in their gun vault show room yesterday when I was there. One was a slighltly more modest version for $1599 and the other was a prettier option for $1899. I want one in the 16G as I already have a 28 but I really liked that Franchi OU. Really felt good in my hands.
I picked up the Franchi Instinct LX two years ago and it's my favorite O/U by far. I was really looking at the Benelli 828U, but a friend of mine bought one and couldn't say one positive thing about it and the Franchi fit me so well. I also have the Bobwhite and love it, but I love double trigger guns. It was definitely rough shooting for a while getting used to that again.
 

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I'm a single trigger guy. I have enough trouble with one trigger, two would cause me problems. Some of these models have field models with interchangeable barrels. You can get mutliple guage barrels and keep the trigger mechanism. Either way, I think they swing well and are fun to shoot. Something about a double gun that is a lot of fun. Pheasant numbers have been poor the last few years so I've stayed with the autoloader. I didn't even shoot AT a pheasant this year.
 
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I have my eye on the Franchi and Fausti OU's. I know Cabelas in Lehi had a couple of the Franchi 28G OU in their gun vault show room yesterday when I was there. One was a slighltly more modest version for $1599 and the other was a prettier option for $1899. I want one in the 16G as I already have a 28 but I really liked that Franchi OU. Really felt good in my hands.
While at cabelas look at the 28ga BR110 O/U by Rizzini along with the Franchi SLX 28ga. They were both the same price and were equally impressive to me when I held them a couple days ago. I also tested the 28ga Silver Pigeon as well. It was solid, but at least 6-8oz more weight and I did not like the balance as much. Right now, I am leaning towards the Rizzini of the 3 guns.
 

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If you can get a few people together that are willing to let you shoot their guns, I’d throw my Citori in the ring for you to try.

I wish we could do more try before you buy shoots. Especially when it comes to expensive guns
 

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I'm all in favor. I don't know that I have many guns that people are dying to shoot, but I'm more than happy to meet anyone and let them shoot mine. I've got a Franchi Instinct SLX, Retay Masai Mara, CZ Redhead Premier, CZ Bobwhite, Browning BPS, Winchester SX4 Upland, Winchester SX1... I feel like I'm missing one.
 

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I recently went to TNT with a group of friends and one of them was talking about wanting a new 9mm but wasn’t sure what he wanted (relatively new to the sport) so we pulled out 7-8 different 9mms and lined them up with 5 rounds in them and he shot them all.

It taught him a lot about triggers and grip shapes / lengths which really helped him narrow his selection down.

So it would be fun to help CPA (or other members) see what fits his needs best.
 
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