Those guys are right the only nontoxic shells for 410's I have ever saw are the bismuth loads, didn't think to include that info, I think (not for sure) I noticed some down at Gallenson's the other day; you will have to call and ask.Mojo1 said:Give Gallenson's a try; phone # 801-328-2016. If they don't carry it I'd imagine they could order it for you.