UTV Advice

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bthewilde

Discussion Starter · 1 mo ago

Hey all, the price of UTVs constantly blows my mind. If you chase my posts around, you'll know I am a cheapskate because I pay child support, but I would really like to get a UTV. Ideally I am shooting to grab it in the next year or two, probably closer to two since my wife is doing her Masters Degree.
Do you think these Colemans are worth it? I can't really find any reviews, or should I stick with something that has a little more of a reputation like this Kubota. I do have personal experience with Kubotas from when I worked in my teen years as a Janitor. I would like to get something sooner than later though and start having fun.

I just keep thinking about a story I heard a few years ago where one guy painstakingly built his race car piece by piece, but when he got to the track he was passed up by the guy who went out to practice racing every day with his stock car. Should I just get a stock car (coleman) or build my racer (kubota)?
Cheers.

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RandomElk16

· #2 · 1 mo ago

What are you planning to use it for?

My instant feedback: A 400 is a TINY UTV. At that engine size- you get more bang for your buck with a name brand ATV. If you want UTV, a reputable brand used would be good. I really like the Teryx 800 2 seaters.

Now if you have considered all that and are set on one of the two above I don't have direct feedback. Coleman has stepped up over the years (in their diverse amount of industries lol) but Kubota has been known and is tried and true. I'm sure someone on here has experience with them!

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Critter

· #3 · 1 mo ago

Are you really wanting a UTV or more of a sportier universal Side by Side?

I agree that you are going to want more than a 400cc engine. I had a Yamaha ATV with the 400 and while it was quite capable I could see where I would need more engine displacement for a number of things. I now have a Yamaha ATV with the 700 engine and am quite happy with what it can do as far as power to pull something.

Of all of them out there the most problems that I have heard have been with the Polaris ones. I am a fan of Yamaha so I would suggest the Viking but looking at ratings the Kubota Sidekick RTV-XG850 gets some fantastic reviews.

One thing that I would consider is if there are door available to place on them if you are out in the weather to give you a enclosed cab, and with that you might want a heater.

A lot is going to depend on just how you plan on using it.

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DallanC

· #4 · 1 mo ago

Teryx's are LOUD machines. That said, if I were to buy one tomorrow, I'd go with a KRX1000. I'd always regret not having a turbo, but the base machine is solid. I keep holding off waiting for Kawasaki to get smart and add a turbo model.

-DallanC

DallanC

· #5 · 1 mo ago (Edited)

Back to OP: Who services the Coleman atvs? Where do you go if you need warranty work? Who makes them for Coleman?

EDIT: I looked it up. They are Chinese made. Please do not spend $9k on one. Give us more specs of what you want and budget and we'll find you something much better.

EDIT 2: For direct comparison to the Coleman, this is better:

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2023 Honda Pioneer 500

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I've seen these in the field, they are tiny. You'd be happier with a bigger model... if budget is a concern, consider a older full sized machine.

-DallanC

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bthewilde

Discussion Starter · #6 · 1 mo ago

I mostly upland, I dabble unsuccessfully in big game. This would be mostly on fire roads, and light off-road. I need to stay under 15K, which is why the Kubota was speaking to me.

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brisket

· #7 · 1 mo ago

DallanC said:
EDIT 2: For direct comparison to the Coleman, this is better:

2023 Honda Pioneer 500

$8,999.00 2023 Honda Pioneer 500 for sale in Mesquite, NV on KSL Classifieds. View a wide selection of UTVs Used (Utility Vehicles) and other great items on KSL Classifieds.

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I've seen these in the field, they are tiny. You'd be happier with a bigger model... if budget is a concern, consider a older full sized machine.

-DallanC

Tiny, yes, but they also fit on the 50” or less trails.

RandomElk16

· #8 · 1 mo ago

bthewilde said:
I mostly upland, I dabble unsuccessfully in big game. This would be mostly on fire roads, and light off-road. I need to stay under 15K, which is why the Kubota was speaking to me.

$15K gets you A LOT of options

brisket said:
Tiny, yes, but they also fit on the 50” or less trails.

RZR Trails fit that also. 900 EPS would stomp those others and can be had under $15K.

RandomElk16

· #9 · 1 mo ago

DallanC said:
Teryx's are LOUD machines. That said, if I were to buy one tomorrow, I'd go with a KRX1000. I'd always regret not having a turbo, but the base machine is solid. I keep holding off waiting for Kawasaki to get smart and add a turbo model.

-DallanC

That KRX4 is so freaking rad.

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Fowlmouth

· #10 · 1 mo ago (Edited)

Can-am Maverick Trail…….I like mine…..

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taxidermist

· #11 · 1 mo ago

Don't go "cheap". Your cheating yourself if you do. If your budget is 15K, then look at machines in that price. Also consider resale value. Polaris, Can Am, Kawasaki, Honda, Yamaha will be worth more than the cheaper machines. I've seen some great deals on KSL before, but, also see some asking way more than what it's worth.

If your looking at a UTV, do yourself a favor and buy POWER. Stay away from small engine displacement. Look at 800 or bigger CC machines.

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Soligue

· #12 · 1 mo ago

Why POWER? I fully support POWER when needed but not everyone needs POWER, especially on a budget. I have a 2008 Yamaha Rhino 450 Special that has taken 2 hunters. 2-3 dogs, shotguns and gear, and recovery equipment everywhere I’ve aimed it. The 450 has a lower final gear ratio than the Rhinos with the larger displacement engines. This allows the power produced to be used efficiently. The time it takes to go the typical distance to a hunting area at 35 mph in a small displacement or 50+ in a large displacement is negligible. The only thing power provides in a well designed UTV is speed and towing capability. For the average user that wants capability and maneuverability a UTV with a smaller displacement engine can do just fine. Just my opinion after owning mine for many years and thousands of miles.

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taxidermist

· #13 · 1 mo ago

Soligue said:
Why POWER? I fully support POWER when needed but not everyone needs POWER, especially on a budget. I have a 2008 Yamaha Rhino 450 Special that has taken 2 hunters. 2-3 dogs, shotguns and gear, and recovery equipment everywhere I’ve aimed it. The 450 has a lower final gear ratio than the Rhinos with the larger displacement engines. This allows the power produced to be used efficiently. The time it takes to go the typical distance to a hunting area at 35 mph in a small displacement or 50+ in a large displacement is negligible. The only thing power provides in a well designed UTV is speed and towing capability. For the average user that wants capability and maneuverability a UTV with a smaller displacement engine can do just fine. Just my opinion after owning mine for many years and thousands of miles.

In the 80's I had a CJ-5 with the 4 cylinder engine. I found myself in more trouble with that guttles, no power rig more times than I wanted. There were a few hills I couldn't get to the top of. I sold it and purchased a 79 CJ-7 with the V-8. I could conquer every one of those hills I couldn't in the cj-5. POWER is what put the CJ-7 atop the hill. Many times you need speed and wheel spin to go up a steep hill, and that comes with cubic displacement POWER to the ground.

This example is where power comes into play. If you have the power, you don't have to use it. But it's nice to have when you do need it. That's my way of looking at it anyway.

middlefork

· #14 · 1 mo ago

Take a look at CF Moto. A bit of mixed revues but might work for you.

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DallanC

· #15 · 1 mo ago

taxidermist said:
In the 80's I had a CJ-5 with the 4 cylinder engine. I found myself in more trouble with that guttles, no power rig more times than I wanted. There were a few hills I couldn't get to the top of.

Depends on the rest of the gearing. We had a 63 Willys with the 4 popper... but that old jeep had a really low trans and axle gearing. It was really impressive where it would crawl. It could barely hit 50 on the highway, 45mph was more the norm in it.

But in the hills, I never felt overly underpowered. We had a lot of jeeps growing up. My favorite was a 84 CJ7 with 6cylinder and factory automatic tranny. That thing was a goat as well, due to it shifting instantly when needed.

Good friend had a late 70's ish CJ5 with a 305, that had a loads of power for sure. The 84 could out climb it at the gravel pit. His was super rusty, super flexible... and that alone got him into places I'd never attempt.

I love jeeps.

-DallanC

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Critter

· #16 · 1 mo ago

You couldn't beat those real old Jeeps. I had a 42 that was manufactured by Ford that had the 134 ci Hurricane 4 cylinder engine in it.

I never found anyplace out in the hills that it was under powered as long as you selected the correct gear range. In mud that thing would just churn it up until it got out, that is as long as that mud wasn't up to the frame. When chained up it was next to impossible to stop

Top speed of 40-45 mph, I still kick myself for ever selling it.

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taxidermist

· #17 · 30 d ago

There were a few hills around that I've seen many rigs not be able to make it, because the lack of power. I made it in the CJ7 and my 78 FJ40 Land Cruiser with a 327 swap.

The neighbor has a 43 Willys in his garage. He mentioned a while back that he was going to have a mechanic go through the engine and get it back on the trail. I'm not sure what motor is in it, I do know it's a four popper.

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Critter

· #18 · 29 d ago

taxidermist said:
There were a few hills around that I've seen many rigs not be able to make it, because the lack of power. I made it in the CJ7 and my 78 FJ40 Land Cruiser with a 327 swap.

The neighbor has a 43 Willys in his garage. He mentioned a while back that he was going to have a mechanic go through the engine and get it back on the trail. I'm not sure what motor is in it, I do know it's a four popper.

If it's the original engine it is the 134 Hurricane Flathead. I don't remember what the first overhead valve engine was, but I had one sitting in the garage to go into my 42.

RandomElk16

· #19 · 29 d ago

A bare rhino 2 seater 450(421) weighs over 1000lbs and has 13-16 horsepower (less than a motocross bike). It's not that you CAN'T do things with it - but nobody is going to hop into a sxs with more power and complain. I had a 2 seater Rhino 660 and it was fine. Did enough. But going from that to a class-comperable Ranger 900 is night and day. Going from those to the current 1000's is also noticeable.

My thing with power is the versatility. Never in a SxS or ATV have I felt like I have "too much" but I have been on Sportsman 400's (they sold for 570s) or in that Rhino and had the engine knocking high RPM and felt like it was going to explode and was lacking what I would prefer. Everyone I know who has had a small SxS upgraded to more power so I usually recommend it off the bat instead of regret down the road.

But you are correct. A 450 will work.

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bthewilde

Discussion Starter · #20 · 29 d ago

If we're going to talk old jeeps, and if I had the money, this would be my ideal

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