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Would think if the DWR releases on there web site information about the upland hunts that they wouldn't show some data backing there claims.
Is it just me or does others feel this ? My Opinion only

Really best in 10 years...???

I have been out 3 days now, seen 1 grouse

Yes cottontail looks good

But really where do they get this from, could somebody answer with real data ?

I talk to no less that 10 bowhunters, grouse hunter the last few days, they all feel the same, DWR has a bunch of BS

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If you read the recent article I believe it states they don't actually do a count on grouse but that while they were out counting other species and what not; their people reported seeing more grouse than in previous years. (Whatever that is worth) Personally Ive been seeing more grouse this year than past years and am looking forward to packing my shotgun on my last scouting trip before the muzzy hunt starts. Hopefully I can bag a couple
 

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Where have you been hunting them and are you using a dog?

You can hike all over the mountain and not see a single one but come back to your truck and they'll be sitting in the tree above it.

I have gone out hunting them and haven't seen a thing but come deer or elk season and all I have with me is a rifle and I'll see them all over the place.

Grouse are where you find them and unless you have a dog to find them it can be a tough hunt, and I doubt that any of the bow hunters that you talked to had a bird dog with them.
 

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I was literally stepping on grouse and chukar last year. During the elk hunt I came on a group of 5-6 grouse that I could have grabbed and throttled to death. Once I sat down and ate lunch on a log, then stood up to continue on and a grouse flew out from a bush not three feet from me. There were so many encounters with grouse during October that I've forgotten most of them. Of course the best was the two-fer where I shot one and heard flapping in the bushes while cleaning the first one and found a second one I had winged in the neck.
 

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Better that they go into my stew pot than into a coyote or fox, which would be the norm with how many there are now. I'm talking forest grouse of course, sage and sharp-tailed are a different story. Rabbits are the same way, the places where I see rabbits are just overflowing...there's a stretch of highway where you can stand and look in both directions and see half a dozen fresh dead cottontails each way.
 

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I think Brendo tells it like it is as far as how they count, but your attitude tells me you must work for them. I did, but I'm now retired hunting tomorrow, hoping things will get better, not staying home....
 

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On a serious note I think people give the DWR a way harder time than they deserve. They say "should be" and "I think" quite frequently in the article and they base their claims off of the great conditions of habitat and feed we have experienced this year. they specifically say they don't count grouse but like what they have seen. Do you honestly think there is an accurate way of counting grouse?
 

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Your asking for data is what i was addressing. They never claim to have any specifically on the animals. They base their claims off of habitat and feed. which I'm sure they have data on if you were so inclined to call them and ask for it. It is simply an article to get people excited about hunting upland.
 
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