[Brettski7]

Eh, I need another truck

This is what I'm debating also but honestly my Tundra is kicking along just fine and giving me no reason to get anything else. The real factor for me is going to be when we actually decide on a travel trailer or 5th wheel. Then I may actually have to switch to probably a Ram or maybe even the GM with Duramax. I have been hearing good stuff about them lately.

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[Ray]

Anyone got any experience with the trail boss? They look good

 

[Ray]

Eh, I need another truck

This is what I'm debating also but honestly my Tundra is kicking along just fine and giving me no reason to get anything else. The real factor for me is going to be when we actually decide on a travel trailer or 5th wheel. Then I may actually have to switch to probably a Ram or maybe even the GM with Duramax. I have been hearing good stuff about them lately.

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I don't think you can really go wrong either way, now the competition is stiff between manufacturers they can't afford to put out something that's faulty. That said, I know several dudes with f-150's that had a lot of problems.

 

[Critter]

They all have problems. I have a couple of friends who bought Chevy's and they are in the shop more than out. Also the company that I used to work for changed over from Dodge to Chevy just recently and the Chevy's are falling apart.

 

[Ray]

They all have problems. I have a couple of friends who bought Chevy's and they are in the shop more than out. Also the company that I used to work for changed over from Dodge to Chevy just recently and the Chevy's are falling apart.

How did you like the dodge's?

 

[Critter]

How did you like the dodge's?

I had retired before they started driving them. I had a F150 and loved it, in 160,000 miles when I left we had very few problems with it.

The guys who drove the Dodges seamed to like them, all they do now is complain about the Chevy's.

 

[PBH]

They are nice vehicles. We just got one for my wife to downsize some, give her an "AWD" option for the snow, reliability, all the features we need, and be able to get to some minor easy offroad areas if needed. It's her daily driver and our family trip vehicle so no hardcore off-roading to tear it up.

It's a Limited so has the funky suspension that I likely won't change out unless one starts leaking fluid but it rises better than the Armada we previously had. Bigger tires is coming though before winter. Thinking Falken Wildpeak AT/3

Yep. Again, these are soccer mom vehicles.

FWIW -- that suspension is awesome. The ride in our Limited is really, really, good. Just don't go trying to add a lift or swap it out. We put some standard width 20" rims on ours -- no more fat-lady-in-high-heels look for us!

now you've piqued my interest

seriously, those Frontiers are nice. Again, they haven't changed their model for many years....which means they aren't having a lot of problems with it. It's a mature platform. The engine is strong. Put some good tires on it, and it will go anywhere. They are great in the snow.

I've got my eyes on watch to see if I can pick up another for me. I'd love to have one for myself to turn into a hunting / fishing rig.

As for those brining up full-size trucks - I absolutely love my GMC 2500 Duramax. I can honestly say that it has spent MORE time out of the shop than in it. (seriously, who has a vehicle that's spent more time in the shop than out??)

I had to replace the alternator, and there was 1 warranty issue with the DEF system -- neither of which kept me from going where I needed to go. I think all of the big 3 (Ford, Chevy, Dodge) make nice vehicles. The Ford's and Chevy's seem to be nice a quiet. The Dodge trucks seem to match their owners: they make a lot of noise.

 

[Brettski7]

Yep. Again, these are soccer mom vehicles.

FWIW -- that suspension is awesome. The ride in our Limited is really, really, good. Just don't go trying to add a lift or swap it out. We put some standard width 20" rims on ours -- no more fat-lady-in-high-heels look for us!

seriously, those Frontiers are nice. Again, they haven't changed their model for many years....which means they aren't having a lot of problems with it. It's a mature platform. The engine is strong. Put some good tires on it, and it will go anywhere. They are great in the snow.

I've got my eyes on watch to see if I can pick up another for me. I'd love to have one for myself to turn into a hunting / fishing rig.

As for those brining up full-size trucks - I absolutely love my GMC 2500 Duramax. I can honestly say that it has spent MORE time out of the shop than in it. (seriously, who has a vehicle that's spent more time in the shop than out??)

I had to replace the alternator, and there was 1 warranty issue with the DEF system -- neither of which kept me from going where I needed to go. I think all of the big 3 (Ford, Chevy, Dodge) make nice vehicles. The Ford's and Chevy's seem to be nice a quiet. The Dodge trucks seem to match their owners: they make a lot of noise.

Well the limited I would say is designed that way yes but suspension change out is easy and like you I am actually looking to throw a wider rim so I can fit a little larger tire and not have that effect you mentioned.

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[Bax*]

I’ve got a Tacoma and am very happy with it. Only problem I’ve ever had was self induced and I get up into hills where I only see SxS machines.

Only thing about Tacomas is that you’ll never hear a guy wish he had a smaller truck.

 

[RandomElk16]

I currently own a Ram 2500 6.7L diesel, an f150(02), and my wife drives a Tacoma Offroad (the new 3.5l).

I had a 2013 Tundra Crewmax v8 before the Ram, Powerstroke before that, 5.9L Ram before that..

My pops recently replaced his Xterra (offroad/3rd vehicle) with the new TRD Pro Tacoma.


If I was a practical person, that Tundra was one of the best vehicles I have ever owned. It ad enough power for being gas and was AMAZING in all elements. Even when traction control was "off" I struggled to get it to do donuts in the snow. It corrected traction so well. Downsides were size for offroad (not that the Ram is small) and gas mileage on those is downright awful. I never had to do anything outside of oil changes though. That's the thing with Tacoma, between the low maintenance and retention of value - they have a really low true cost of value.

I referenced my dad because he loved that Nissan Xterra for offroading and was sad that they discontinued them. He did have random stuff go out on it - problems you don't expect - but I think if they made them still he would have gotten another one. The murano was awful with issues and the older Frontiers were also. From what I understand, the new frontiers have mad a lot of strides on maintenance. So their cost of ownership is really low in that sense - but retention of value/demand isn't great. When we looked for my wife's Tacoma there was an awesome little lightly used frontier that sat on one lot for so long. It was priced much lower than Tacoma's but sat there.

So, you could get one for really cheap... but also plan on a lot of depreciation.

The 2020 Frontier has a lot of power and torque. Not sure what years were referenced earlier but previous to 2020 the Tacoma had slightly more HP, slightly less torque.



Much like the Tundra - I am stoked on our Tacoma purchase, as is my dad. They are just awesome trucks for adventuring.

 

[Daisy]

If I was a practical person, that Tundra was one of the best vehicles I have ever owned. It ad enough power for being gas and was AMAZING in all elements. Even when traction control was "off" I struggled to get it to do donuts in the snow. It corrected traction so well. Downsides were size for offroad (not that the Ram is small) and gas mileage on those is downright awful. I never had to do anything outside of oil changes though. That's the thing with Tacoma, between the low maintenance and retention of value - they have a really low true cost of value.

I am the original owner of an 07 Tundra with 318K miles, and I endorse the above statement. Solid. I have never seen another brand of truck pull the space shuttle.

 

[DallanC]

Wasnt it Tundra's that had the frames rusting and breaking in half back east in the rust belt? I remember seeing alot of pictures and discussions... and threats of a class action lawsuit.

*Edit: Lol yes it was. Google "tundra broken frame" and click the images tab... haha

-DallanC

 

[RandomElk16]

Wasnt it Tundra's that had the frames rusting and breaking in half back east in the rust belt? I remember seeing alot of pictures and discussions... and threats of a class action lawsuit.

*Edit: Lol yes it was. Google "tundra broken frame" and click the images tab... haha

-DallanC

I mean.. mine was a 2013 which wasn't the ones known for that - and the Rust Belt is a pretty wicked place period.

They also bought them back at like 1.5x their KBB value so I would say that's a solid cost of ownership lol.

 

[Catherder]

I have been following this thread with some interest as I have a 2004 4 runner (original owner) with almost 200,000 miles that I'm thinking of replacing. The 4 runner has been amazing and has given me no trouble in 16 years. I have been leaning towards the Tundra but may go back to the 4 Runner.

Anyways, thanks for the input and please continue. :smile-||

 

[RandomElk16]

I have been following this thread with some interest as I have a 2004 4 runner (original owner) with almost 200,000 miles that I'm thinking of replacing. The 4 runner has been amazing and has given me no trouble in 16 years. I have been leaning towards the Tundra but may go back to the 4 Runner.

Anyways, thanks for the input and please continue. :smile-||

TRD Offroad anything are freaking great vehicles.

 

[Catherder]

Ok, I have a related question for you all. Unlike some folks, I have to admit that I look forward to buying a new vehicle about the same as I would a colonoscopy appointment. (And I feel like I end up with the same sensation in the end-O,-) Nevertheless, I was thinking of waiting until about September to start seriously shopping, with the rationale that the model year will be closing out and the prices/deals will be better. I have done that before with some success. Especially with covid turning the world upside down, is that still a good strategy? Also some manufacturers (including Toyota) are offering 0 interest for 60 or 72 months. I have some cash set aside, but if I don't have to drop it all to get what I want, that might be nice. Or should my efforts be to get a lower price without financing?
Thoughts?

 

[Critter]

The problem this year with new vehicles is that the dealers have not been replacing their sold stock.

I have a few dealers a ways away that I drove past this morning and their new vehicle inventory looks like a close out sale happened.

On the zero% interest it is a great way to go. I purchased a new vehicle in 2016 with the zero% interest and have a hard time not just paying it off like I have done with the rest of my vehicles. But I need to keep reminding myself that I am playing with their money and that it isn't costing me a dime to let the loan go full term.

 

[PBH]

seriously, those Frontiers are nice. Again, they haven't changed their model for many years....which means they aren't having a lot of problems with it. It's a mature platform. The engine is strong. Put some good tires on it, and it will go anywhere. They are great in the snow.

I've got my eyes on watch to see if I can pick up another for me. I'd love to have one for myself to turn into a hunting / fishing rig.

well.....

My daughter called me Wednesday night and said "I'm parked on the side of the road.....the truck made a loud BANG and now it won't drive..."

ugh. Rear end is gone. It's looking like I'll be putting about $2k into a new-to-me rear end. Dang.

 

[DallanC]

My daughter called me Wednesday night and said "I'm parked on the side of the road.....the truck made a loud BANG and now it won't drive..."

ugh. Rear end is gone. It's looking like I'll be putting about $2k into a new-to-me rear end. Dang.

Nah, get the diff build code off your glove box door. Hit a wrecking yard and find a wreck with the same axle. Buy axle and install. Should be a few hundred $$ is all + 4 new ubolts.

If you look around, you might find one with a limited slip 8)

-DallanC

 

[Fowlmouth]

I have been following this thread too. I sold my Ford F-250 Superduty a month ago. I'm patiently waiting for the right truck to buy. Like Critter mentioned, inventory is low right now and prices are sky high. I'm looking at Chevys this go around..