You didn't bait chit, or was that even your intention!!! This is you. You and several others think they need to nit pic hunters and their methods. Wheather or not it was big enough. If the right gun caliber was used and bullet weight. If their hat was crooked from the wind blowing it around when they were on their ATV. Yup had the day off and went and checked on the elk. Then we went after chukar. Guess what??? we did it on a sunday from ATVs. We cheated because when the trail ended we walked following our dogs!!!! They even had beeper collars on!!! And we weren't selective on our birds, nope we shot at every bird that flushed not just the trophy birds!!!! They all had equal opportunity. According to how some of you feel, we even harassed wildlife!! Yup a bunch of deer jumped from their beds when we went down a ravine. Really I don't know who I am more against anymore, some members of this forum or peta!!!!!! Im off to waterproof my red boots.