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Which OIL species should I apply for?

  • Bison

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I'm getting a little more excited about big game hunting than I used to, so I've decided I'm going to start putting in for a once-in-a-lifetime permit next year. Which one should it be?

I would very much appreciate honest feedback on what would be a good species to apply for. At the same time, though, nobody who is applying for the OIL hunts wants any more competition in the draw, so I know this question may not be well-received.

If you want to give some honest feedback, that would be great. If you're applying for bison, for example, then maybe you should try to convince me to apply for something else, so I'm not competing with you.

Convince me. :mrgreen:

Right now I'm thinking either a mountain goat or a bighorn sheep. They've got some pretty long season dates, and they're cool animals. I'm open to just about anything, though.
 

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You need to get out and check out the areas that the goats and sheep are hanging out in and get to know that area well. That way when you get lucky with 0-5 points you won't come on here and ask where you should go.

I'm that way with the buffalo. I know the Henry Mountains like the back of my hand. I hunted deer down there for years before I found another location and they closed it. I know where they hang out for all 4 seasons and have been down there 7 times with other hunters when they have drawn out.
 

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Do you hope to actually draw someday? If so, goats are your best bet. Cow bison next and the rest you might as well start playing the powerball.
I plan on being able to hunt for the next 50-60 years, so I think I might have a shot sometime after I retire.
 

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You need to get out and check out the areas that the goats and sheep are hanging out in and get to know that area well. That way when you get lucky with 0-5 points you won't come on here and ask where you should go.

I'm that way with the buffalo. I know the Henry Mountains like the back of my hand. I hunted deer down there for years before I found another location and they closed it. I know where they hang out for all 4 seasons and have been down there 7 times with other hunters when they have drawn out.
I'll just be buying points for the next little while. I've drawn two decent tags while in school now, and not had the time to give the hunt a really good effort because, well, I'm in school. I'm not going to make that mistake with an OIL tag.
 

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Haha I'm loving the optimism here guys.

Has anyone ever tried a mathematical analysis to see what the odds are for a hunter with 0 points to draw a certain tag within x years? I know there's too much uncertainty to get a good estimate, but it might be an interesting exercise to try sometime.
 

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I have 5 bison points. I'm 300+ years away from the guaranteed bonus pool for drawing a bull bison tag on the Henry Mtns. Enjoy your next 50-60 years...

Goats, at least right now, seem to have the most promise for low point holders. But all that can change long before you are even close to being able to draw.

OIL odds are depressing. So pick the species YOU would most rather hunt, then begin making your yearly $10 donation to the DWR like the rest of us.
 

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The more I look through the drawing odds report, the more I can see where everyone's optimism is coming from. The bonus point system was really nice to the guys who got into it right when it started. Not sure if it did me any favors, though...

Oh well, it'll still be fun to stick my name in the hat every year and hope for the best. And although I won't be around 300+ years, the 50-60 years I have left (God willing) still give me enough hope to give it a go.
 

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A lot of those higher point holders are in their 40s 50s 60s 70s and even older than that so if you're a young pup your odds might be better than you think right now. Drawing a tag isnt the only thing that will get those higher point holders out of your way. Death, losing interest in hunting, failing health and many other factors will whittle away at those higher point holders also. It would only take you 300 years to become the max point holder if all the people above you live for 300ish years. So dont be too discouraged. I will guarantee you that you will never draw the tag if you don't put in so throw your hat in the ring!
 

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All ARE AWESOME

My mother has drawn all of her oil
Kamas: Moose,
Henry Mountains: Buffalo
Lone Peak: Mountain Goat
Potash: Desert Bighorn
Nine Mile Rocky Mountain Bighorn

My Father Has Drawn:
Henry Mountain: Buffalo
Rattle Snake : Rocky Mountain Bighorn
North San Rafael: Desert Bighorn

And I have Drawn:
Kamas: Moose
Potash: Desert Bighorn

GO FOR THE ONE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DRAW, (Some with Max Points Others with a couple of points) (Hint: All the sheep were Drawn while we were in AFRICA HUNTING Five out of the Nine Trips)
 

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My mother has drawn all of her oil
Kamas: Moose,
Henry Mountains: Buffalo
Lone Peak: Mountain Goat
Potash: Desert Bighorn
Nine Mile Rocky Mountain Bighorn

My Father Has Drawn:
Henry Mountain: Buffalo
Rattle Snake : Rocky Mountain Bighorn
North San Rafael: Desert Bighorn

And I have Drawn:
Kamas: Moose
Potash: Desert Bighorn

GO FOR THE ONE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DRAW, (Some with Max Points Others with a couple of points) (Hint: All the sheep were Drawn while we were in AFRICA HUNTING Five out of the Nine Trips)
And they say it ain't rigged.
 

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All I know is everyone has a shot at a tag, but at 19 moose points there are 552 people (if I remember correctly) at 19 or higher. Its still a long time until I can pull a top unit.

Pick a species and go for it! I know guys who have drawn with 0.
 

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Has anyone ever tried a mathematical analysis to see what the odds are for a hunter with 0 points to draw a certain tag within x years? I know there's too much uncertainty to get a good estimate, but it might be an interesting exercise to try sometime.
Yes, I have... go to my blog (the link in my signature) and download the spreadsheet from the link in the left sidebar. HINT: you'll need to be logged into your Google account. The analysis has been done for every species, every unit.

I don't take responsibility for the visceral reaction that some of those numbers may cause.

I say pick a species and go for it... I'm in the moose pool just because none of the other species really interest me right now.
 

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Yes, I have... go to my blog (the link in my signature) and download the spreadsheet from the link in the left sidebar. HINT: you'll need to be logged into your Google account. The analysis has been done for every species, every unit.

I don't take responsibility for the visceral reaction that some of those numbers may cause.

I say pick a species and go for it... I'm in the moose pool just because none of the other species really interest me right now.
It looks like a great tool. Thanks for putting it together. I'll definitely be reviewing it in the coming days.

What really hurts is the feature that lets me see the odds based on the number of points you have. If I were more forward-thinking as a teenager, I could have had five points by now, which would put me in the running for some tags I now don't have a great chance for. But let's face it, we all know how forward-thinking teenage boys are. :-x
 

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I voted Desert bighorns.....

If your going to win the lottery, might as well win big!

Desert's are the funnest OIAL hunt in my book..:!:..
 

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I couldn't vote.
I say put in for the one you want to hunt the most.
 
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