[PBH]

Two days in a row of positive (green) lake elevation change for Lake Powell.

 

[backcountry]

Those are some absolutely nutty #s.

It's rain on snow like this that is a wild card I don't understand at all how to predict. I just have no clue what it does for places like Powell or Mead. I assume it just blasts them sooner since it's really all about SWE?

We are taking my parents down to several viewpoints today since they've never seen the area like this. I've never seen the Gunlock falls myself but I'm guessing they'll have roads closed, if not the place will be at capacity most of the day.

 

[PBH]

The positive with these early rainfalls is that the low-elevation melt all comes at once, and runs down the rivers into the reservoirs vs. a slow melt that allows much of the melt to be absorbed by the ground.

Further, there isn't much irrigation diversion happening right now. So the runoff actually flows to the reservoirs instead of to the fields.

If we can fill our reservoirs in March, then no need to worry about filling them in April / May competing with alfalfa fields.

 

[backcountry]

I hadn't considered agricultural needs. That makes a huge difference. With the secondary benefit that fuller reservoirs still help them.

 

[bowgy]

Interesting.

Live-streaming: Waterfalls gush down at Gunlock State Park with no sign of stopping

GUNLOCK — Sorry, TLC. We’re chasing waterfalls. As predicted, Gunlock Falls is flowing, with some of the heaviest and swiftest levels of water the area has ever seen. While rumors have spread that public access may be cut off, Lead Public Information Officer Devan Chavez with the Utah State...

www.stgeorgeutah.com

 

[PBH]

Looks like the Santa Clara is running over it's banks -- but flows are receding . This is near the confluence of the Virgin:

 

[backcountry]

We chose to hike around La Verkin since Gunlock was still closed when we looked this morning. Not nearly as high up here but still great to see the river flowing like this.

 

[middlefork]

Any bets? Ae we going to beat it? Highest recorded SWE at Brighton.

 

[2full]

With the forecast for this week........
I would say yes.

 

[taxidermist]

You do know that they have heaters for those dishes.

You kidding about the heaters? I assume they are solar powered? If so, as a homeowner, will I get a refund from the power company and the state for installing solar?

I was all about going green, but I sold my green colored 1978 F-250 with a 460.

 

[MrShane]

You kidding about the heaters? I assume they are solar powered? If so, as a homeowner, will I get a refund from the power company and the state for installing solar?

I was all about going green, but I sold my green colored 1978 F-250 with a 460.

I bet you’d give your left nut for that Ford back!

 

[callofthewild2]

I bet you’d give your left nut for that Ford back!

I'm a chevy guy and i would give my left nut for that truck myself.

 

[taxidermist]

I bet you’d give your left nut for that Ford back!

It wasn't a "stock" truck. I replaced the original 400 with a FI 460 and ZF5 tranny and transfer case. Sold it 5-6 years ago.

I have a 4 door that I've been toying with the idea of dropping a 12V Cummins and 6 speed manual in it. I'll have to use the running gear out of the Dodge as well to keep the torque of the motor from twisting the frame up. More than likely it won't happen and I'll end up giving it to my son or one of the grandkids for a project.

 

[backcountry]

The SWE figures for us in SW Utah that make up this snow pack are just amazing:

 

[2filled]

And it just keeps coming !!
Im really starting to think we might be in trouble down here………
We will hit May, jump up to some high 70 and 80 degree temps and I’ll be living in the Ark I’m building.

The people out west of Cedar that built all those new homes are going to remember why it’s called Quichipa LAKE. I know they’ve tried to divert some out to Midvalley, we’ll find out if it worked this year.

 

[PBH]

The people out west of Cedar that built all those new homes are going to remember why it’s called Quichipa LAKE. I know they’ve tried to divert some out to Midvalley, we’ll find out if it worked this year.

We'll probably hear the same thing we heard last time: "We've never seen water out here before". 🤷‍♂️



'course, who am I to speak? I've got a lake where my lawn is supposed to be!

 

[backcountry]

I've always worried about a rain on snow event for Cedar but only have a rough guess how it would play out. I don't think the updated FEMA maps are out yet for our area either.

Hopefully the ditches leading to Quichapah hold up this go round.

I'd actually be more worried for newer developments closer to town that are reliant on all of the culverts and systems needed to move water out of Coal Creek's main pathway. The integrity of that entire system was compromised during the floods of 2021. They just weren't designed well enough for the amount of flow and debris that creek has shown it occasionally moves.

My house should be fine but I feel for those folks in riskier areas. Cedar's lackadaisicle approach to allowing building in flood zones has a cost.

And hopefully we won't see any flooding this year!

 

[taxidermist]

Remember what happened to Enock a couple years ago? Total destruction from multiple rain events of more than 2" of rain fall within an hour. That is crazy!!

FEMA didn't front any funds for the destruction, because Enock was NOT in a "flood plain". Even though the water created close to 7M in cost's for repair. The community (and surrounding city's, Cedar being one) came together and did the work. A local dentist's family owns a sheetrock plant and donated all the sheetrock for anyone that were in need of it.

Remember, unless you have a flood policy in your homeowners insurance plan, it will NOT pay for flood damages.

 

[Critter]

Remember, unless you have a flood policy in your homeowners insurance plan, it will NOT pay for flood damages.

If anyone remembers back to 83 when the Thistle slide came down and dammed up the Spanish Fork River. There was a nicer home on the east side of what became the pond, they purchased some flood insurance and there was a waiting period before it went into effect.

Well, the water took the house out around a week before the flood insurance took effect.

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[backcountry]

Remember what happened to Enock a couple years ago? Total destruction from multiple rain events of more than 2" of rain fall within an hour. That is crazy!!

FEMA didn't front any funds for the destruction, because Enock was NOT in a "flood plain". Even though the water created close to 7M in cost's for repair. The community (and surrounding city's, Cedar being one) came together and did the work. A local dentist's family owns a sheetrock plant and donated all the sheetrock for anyone that were in need of it.

Remember, unless you have a flood policy in your homeowners insurance plan, it will NOT pay for flood damages.

Yeah, home flooding is a nightmare. And FEMA insurance is expensive.

I feel for those folks that got hit in 2021. I still keep sandbags from that year even though our house doesn't require flood insurance. Between city/county policy & developers not really caring we've seen flooding solely from poor community design, which was the case in Enoch & Cedar that year. You fill areas with concrete and blacktop and water finds a way downhill, even if slowly. And Iron Co seems to be allergic to the recommended grading away from the home. Its a recipe for disaster as we saw.

The community really came together that summer though. I only filled sandbags for an extra hour but people were donating resources and time for months. It was impressive.