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CC hits 2014 Part II

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#1 · (Edited)
Ok, draw closed for antlerless yesterday, when are we going to get hit? I seem to recall that this one goes pretty quick, so a week? Two?
 
#4 · (Edited)
Look for pending charges Wendsday.


Oppps,
Forgot to put the date,,,,7-2-14


They, the DWR, is currantly trying to close out sales on the big game draw..
The were a high number of CC denyed.

They were contacting alternates to purchace unpayed for big game permits...( and high number of general deer tags to alts..)
When this is completed , the will run the antlerless successful apps.

This is the info I have.
 
#9 ·
We'll see, check in the afternoon hours.
 
#19 ·
They, the DWR, is currantly trying to close out sales on the big game draw..
The were a high number of CC denyed.

They were contacting alternates to purchace unpayed for big game permits...( and high number of general deer tags to alts..)
When this is completed , the will run the antlerless successful apps.

This is the info I have...
 
#20 ·
Out of curiosity, do they really have that many bad cards each year? I understand stuff happens and financial status changes with the wind but how hard is it to make sure you have funds in your bank for a tag or two? Maybe they should make us pay for our tags up front then refund if you are unsuccessful. Just think of how many limited tags are drawn by people who can't even afford the tag or let alone the time to go hunting.
 
#24 ·
Goofy is talking about the bucks bulls and once in a lifetime draw still. Some of those tags can be as much as $1,110.00 even for residents. With my wifes spending habits it is hard to keep that balance in my checking account at all times.

That being said I would really like to have a Sportsmans Warehouse CC for tags and pretty much only tags.

The antlerless draw is so cheap that I am not too worried about a maximum of $140.00 if I happen to be lucky enough to draw every single tag that I put in for. It would actually be a good way to launder money from my wife if we had to pay up front and got refunded if we didn't draw... I might just hope that I don't draw with that being the case... :grin:
 
#21 ·
A lot of people don't use a credit card but their debit card and in the length of time that passed between the application and the charges appearing people forget, change banks, or shut down that account.

That is one thing that you would eliminate if they required payment up front.
 
#25 ·
If they ran cards and some did not go through, wouldn't those who had valid cards see the charges on their card? It does not make sense to me that they would run cards to see which ones were valid and not charge the valid ones at that time.

Anyway-- I was in a meeting a couple years ago where they talked about the UDWR spending 6 figures a year (I think it was just over $100,000- I can't find the note with precise number) due to invalid cards. It costs the UDWR to run each card, each time (up to 3) and it costs the UDWR to contact the person with the invalid card and then it costs to contact alternates. I think that number included all draws- BBOIL, Antlerless, swan, bear, cougar, etc..., but it may have just been the BBOIL.
 
#29 ·
If they ran cards and some did not go through, wouldn't those who had valid cards see the charges on their card? It does not make sense to me that they would run cards to see which ones were valid and not charge the valid ones at that time.

Anyway-- I was in a meeting a couple years ago where they talked about the UDWR spending 6 figures a year (I think it was just over $100,000- I can't find the note with precise number) due to invalid cards. It costs the UDWR to run each card, each time (up to 3) and it costs the UDWR to contact the person with the invalid card and then it costs to contact alternates. I think that number included all draws- BBOIL, Antlerless, swan, bear, cougar, etc..., but it may have just been the BBOIL.
The UDWR does pay the actual credit card fees, but they do not run the cards, nor do they contact the applicant nor alternates if the card isn't valid. The Utah Wildlife Administrative Services (The drawing company out of Fallon Nevada) does all of that and that's included in the TOTAL cost of the draw which is $3.01 per application per their current contracts with DWR. And, FWIW, that $3.01 per application is the price for ALL draws and the processes that go with it.

Also the card is run through no less than 5 times and the applicants with invalid cards are contacted up to 4 times before the alternates are called. That's why some things go slow.
 
#26 ·
Just got hit for an anterless deer . It's on.
 
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