No, but now it is on my radar! I am sure it'll be phenomenal. I hunted one private club out there once with an old friend and there are tons of ducks out that way!

 

That's why there were plenty of ducks to shoot at. PRIVATE. Won't take long for the Utard marsh mutts to ruin it.

Way to many people for the amount of property and available resources in Utah. And it's only going to get worse.

 

I did some quick looking but there isn't much detailed info online anywhere. This is all I could find

665 ACRES. If I had to guess this is the property.

 

665 ACRES. If I had to guess this is the property.

Yep, that be it. Access easement will definitely be a challenge. I was a lessee at the Harrison (adjacent to the Blackhawk on the north) for 12 years. Watched many times the birds bombing into the north end of the Blackhawk from the border blinds on the Harrison. It should be an excellent venue if they develop it correctly (no boat access 😁).

 

No public access? Challenge accepted. Now where'd I put my hot air balloon....

 

I suspect it’ll be a new swan hotspot. They seem to drift more that way when they are thick in the south part of the lake.

 

It is a portion of the old Blackhawk Duck Club the State bought out.

 

@G00SE

Found this, it's not much but more than I found earlier lol

Curlew Structures — Great Salt Lake Watershed Enhancement Trust

www.gslwatertrust.org

 

My dad cut his teeth on waterfowl hunting on the Blackhawk club in his teens and 20’s. It will be super cool for me on a personal level to hunt it, even if only for sentimental reasons.

 

What happened to the members of the Blackhawk?

 

Half of them are shopping around with their payout, raising prices at other clubs.
Other half used their payout to pad their retirement accounts.
Or so I heard…..

 

Sounds to me the Harrison boys have the best access. Maybe the leasee's can hunt it on their no hunt days?

 

Wherever the access to the Blackhawk is created, I hope it is a better road than Farmington. FB road is a disaster already and we’re not even into December.

 

I don’t know why they just don’t pave it and be done with it. Same with Ogden. Spur and Harold. Certainly they have the funds (or should) by stealing tags from the public every February and raffling them off in the name of “conservation”. Maybe quit building sheep enclosures with mtn lions trapped inside of them, and put the money to better use. DWR pisses away money faster than just about every other wildlife management agency I’m aware of. Absolutely phenomenal.

 

Oh, there are lots of know-it-alls. But very few that have spent decades trying to cut the public off from public lands.

 

I thought for sure I was the only member that knows it all🤔 Thanks for ruining my day Vanilla. 🥲

 

Y'all are funny.

I have paddler blocked, so I don't have to read his garbage. 😁

 

If this new area is only roughly a square mile, I’d be fine with motorless access only. Boats scooting across that thing at speed would make it a duck desert. The sheer pressure that will be put on it so close to SLC will be plenty already to decrease the quality of the place over time.

 

There are a few posters on the forum who are divorced from reality, unbridled by truth. My motorless proposal of 2009 recommended increasing the motorless areas from the then current 4.6% of the total WMA acreage to 16.9%. This was based on the 2005 survey done by the DWR. Of the respondents, 27% favored increasing motorless access, while 53% favored rest areas at each WMA, and 70% accessed the marsh using no motors of any kind.

I recommended specific areas to be made motorless only at WMAs with two or more ramp-accessible units, and recommended the smallest areas with boat ramps for motorless restrictions at each WMA. It seemed reasonable then and still does today. Note that excluded the Turpin, despite what someone said.

We saw this coming over 20 years ago. Mud motors increase bird disturbance. Period. Maybe that's why on my last several trips to FB there have been at least three, and up to five mud motors parked at the end of the Turpin. Only three today, but it's a weekday.

But speaking of today, here's one. Don't see many of these in parks:

We'll see what happens with the new WMA, perhaps they'll implement some forward-looking management measures.

 

There are a few posters on the forum who are divorced from reality, unbridled by truth. My motorless proposal of 2009 recommended increasing the motorless areas from the then current 4.6% of the total WMA acreage to 16.9%. This was based on the 2005 survey done by the DWR. Of the respondents, 27% favored increasing motorless access, while 53% favored rest areas at each WMA, and 70% accessed the marsh using no motors of any kind.

I recommended specific areas to be made motorless only at WMAs with two or more ramp-accessible units, and recommended the smallest areas with boat ramps for motorless restrictions at each WMA. It seemed reasonable then and still does today. Note that excluded the Turpin, despite what someone said.

We saw this coming over 20 years ago. Mud motors increase bird disturbance. Period. Maybe that's why on my last several trips to FB there have been at least three, and up to five mud motors parked at the end of the Turpin. Only three today, but it's a weekday.

But speaking of today, here's one. Don't see many of these in parks:

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We'll see what happens with the new WMA, perhaps they'll implement some forward-looking management measures.

You must not spend much time in parks then. Not surprising since you hate fun. Anyways, Widgeys love GRASS. Guess what’s usually surrounding park ponds… 🤔

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16.9% of the WMAs reserved for a sub-group of hunters that made up less than 3% of the hunting public.

Sounds like a sweetheart deal to me!

 

Incorrect. The 70% of waterfowlers who don't use mud motors would benefit from more motorless areas as they wouldn't have to compete with them.

 

Just waiting for the ban....

 

Oh boo. Just another notch in the belt. Wait until you see my next screen name

 

You can only hunt the east and west edges of the Duchesne without a boat ( the biggest pond on Blackhawk) also the west side of the. 40's 50's and 60's ponds are quite a hike to get to without a canoe,. the east and west side of the 30's is easy to get to. There also are quite a few sinkbox blinds that you can pretty much drive to......in the middle of Blackhawk

 

My dad can beat up yer dad. so there

 

My wife thought I was insane for buying in to my duck club 7 years ago for $30k.
Who’s insane now!
Well, it’s still me, but when I die her new husband better appreciate it!!

 

After the 1980's floods duck clubs were cheap. Now members at some pay about $100/hunt day in annual dues to shoot 7 ducks.

$20K for a duck boat to run to the end of the Turpin seems pretty expensive, especially when you have to walk or ride from there. I've seen some pretty fancy-looking rigs out there.

 

An airboat is on the bucket list, until then, I'll just have to slum it and ruin Paddler's life with my mud motor.

 

I'll just have to slum it and ruin Paddler's life with my mud motor.

Go for it!

 

Everyone thinks that they need a boat to hunt ducks.

I have been a foot soldier for over 60 years hunting waterfowl also most of the time without a dog to retrieve them. My hunting partners and I just pick and choose the areas that we want to hunt where we don't need either and have been quite successful catching both ducks and geese flying from the water to their feeding grounds or flying into the water, we just catch them before they get over something that we can't wade.

There are a lot of areas in Utah that you can do this, you might have to drive a ways but this also eliminates other hunters.

 

Everyone thinks that they need a boat to hunt ducks.

I have been a foot soldier for over 60 years hunting waterfowl also most of the time without a dog to retrieve them. My hunting partners and I just pick and choose the areas that we want to hunt where we don't need either and have been quite successful catching both ducks and geese flying from the water to their feeding grounds or flying into the water, we just catch them before they get over something that we can't wade.

There are a lot of areas in Utah that you can do this, you might have to drive a ways but this also eliminates other hunters.

You can walk to work every day instead of driving your vehicle. You can use a sledge hammer instead of an auger out ice fishing. You can hand-line or use a pop can to spool your line while fishing instead of using a fishing rod. But goodness Critter, it’s 2024!!!

I’ve got nothing against foot soldiers. 90+% of my waterfowl hunts over 30+ years of waterfowl hunting have been done by foot. It just seems your post is talking down to people that use a boat or dog for waterfowling like it is inferior to your draconian methods. Seems unnecessary to me. There is room for all types.

And if you’re not waterfowling with a good dog, you aren’t enjoying waterfowling the way it was intended to be done. In fact, bird hunting in general is less enjoyable without dogs. Not only do they make it easier, it is a darn pleasure and quite enjoyable to watch a good dog work. I get every bit as much entertainment out of watching a good bird or water dog as I do the actual hunting of the birds. Sorry you’ve missed out on that all these 60 years!

 

If you don’t do it puddlers way, you’re wrong. His way is the only way.

................................no name calling please

 

No text.

 

The queen of veiled shots!

What a gaslighter.

Nothing veiled about it, V. Your assertion was pure projection, Critter merely stated how he hunts. If anything, your post was condescending and contradictory at the same time. You described weird ways to do things, then reminded him of the date as if to tell him to get with the times and get a boat and/or a dog. You called his hunting methods as "draconian", which I think most would consider condescending.

What's really weird is that despite calling his methods draconian, you said 90+% of your own hunts have been as a foot soldier. If believe that is so, why don't you use a boat for all your hunts? How about a retreiver?

There are many ways to access the marsh, none are inherently superior to the others. We all make judgements regarding them on a cost/benefit basis.

If you don’t do it puddlers way, you’re wrong. His way is the only way.

................................no name calling please

#MAGA2024

Political statements are against forum rules, and I think that includes hashtags. If they are allowed, I'd be happy to post up a few.

 

Hey, if anyone knows condescending, it’s you! I’ll defer to your expertise.

But what does that have to do with the OP? I feel like sidetracking threads is against forum rules too. Will you check on that for me?

I’d like to know how your pontification there about me has anything to do with the new WMA? I’m always happy when the state is expanding public land and hunting opportunities instead of taking them away like some would have.

I will oppose those groups and people 100% of the time, and support the state when it does things like this 100% of the time. I like it when other people, and not just me, get to hunt. It’s awesome seeing others have joy!

 

The money sure could have been spent better on a ‘duck’ WMA down in Goshen Bay.
There was a plan for one many years ago.
I know there is one there now for the Pheasant program.
I’m talking about stepped impoundments like Farmington Bay and Ogden Bay, something more consistent for the birds to use.
Maybe the Goshen side does not have enough inflow?
If not, how about Mud Bay?

 

There is very little, if any at all, flows that reach goshen for most of the year.

there was talk and momentum going on one in mud lake a few years ago. But the june sucker lovers got that shot down pretty fast.