[paddler]

Your opinion is invalid. You think turpin is too small for mudboats and it’s one of the bigger ones utah has

I never said that, don't put words in my mouth. The Turpin is about 1200 acres, nearly twice the size of the new WMA. Maybe they should make it a draw unit.

 

[Vanilla]

I never said that, don't put words in my mouth. The Turpin is about 1200 acres, nearly twice the size of the new WMA. Maybe they should make it a draw unit.

Paddler looking to restrict public opportunities? You don’t say! Some things never change.

 

[JerryH]

Sounds to me the Harrison boys have the best access. Maybe the leasee's can hunt it on their no hunt days?

 

[BYUHunter]

Paddler looking to restrict public opportunities? You don’t say! Some things never change.

Sounds like he's as much of a joker here as he is on BFT. He knows everything, just ask him!

 

[G00SE]

I never said that, don't put words in my mouth. The Turpin is about 1200 acres, nearly twice the size of the new WMA. Maybe they should make it a draw unit.

You’re always bi+ching about the mud boats out there in the tone of “this pond ain’t big enough for the two of us”. I’m not putting words In your mouth. Anyone who’s read your posts long enough knows exactly what you mean. Maybe quit being such of fan of unnecessary restrictions.

You can go take pictures of ducks at the park. No canoe required. And no mudboats allowed.

 

[Fowlmouth]

Wherever the access to the Blackhawk is created, I hope it is a better road than Farmington. FB road is a disaster already and we’re not even into December.

 

[Vanilla]

Oh, there are lots of know-it-alls. But very few that have spent decades trying to cut the public off from public lands.

 

[G00SE]

Wherever the access to the Blackhawk is created, I hope it is a better road than Farmington. FB road is a disaster already and we’re not even into December.

I don’t know why they just don’t pave it and be done with it. Same with Ogden. Spur and Harold. Certainly they have the funds (or should) by stealing tags from the public every February and raffling them off in the name of “conservation”. Maybe quit building sheep enclosures with mtn lions trapped inside of them, and put the money to better use. DWR pisses away money faster than just about every other wildlife management agency I’m aware of. Absolutely phenomenal.

 

[dubob]

Y'all are funny.

I have paddler blocked, so I don't have to read his garbage. 😁

 

[MWScott72]

If this new area is only roughly a square mile, I’d be fine with motorless access only. Boats scooting across that thing at speed would make it a duck desert. The sheer pressure that will be put on it so close to SLC will be plenty already to decrease the quality of the place over time.

 

[paddler]

There are a few posters on the forum who are divorced from reality, unbridled by truth. My motorless proposal of 2009 recommended increasing the motorless areas from the then current 4.6% of the total WMA acreage to 16.9%. This was based on the 2005 survey done by the DWR. Of the respondents, 27% favored increasing motorless access, while 53% favored rest areas at each WMA, and 70% accessed the marsh using no motors of any kind.

I recommended specific areas to be made motorless only at WMAs with two or more ramp-accessible units, and recommended the smallest areas with boat ramps for motorless restrictions at each WMA. It seemed reasonable then and still does today. Note that excluded the Turpin, despite what someone said.

We saw this coming over 20 years ago. Mud motors increase bird disturbance. Period. Maybe that's why on my last several trips to FB there have been at least three, and up to five mud motors parked at the end of the Turpin. Only three today, but it's a weekday.

But speaking of today, here's one. Don't see many of these in parks:

We'll see what happens with the new WMA, perhaps they'll implement some forward-looking management measures.

 

[MrShane]

I don’t know why they just don’t pave it and be done with it. Same with Ogden. Spur and Harold. Certainly they have the funds (or should) by stealing tags from the public every February and raffling them off in the name of “conservation”. Maybe quit building sheep enclosures with mtn lions trapped inside of them, and put the money to better use. DWR pisses away money faster than just about every other wildlife management agency I’m aware of. Absolutely phenomenal.

Or at a minimum quit stealing the tags and put all 500 or so of them back in the public draw.
#SlowDownPointCreep

 

[Vanilla]

16.9% of the WMAs reserved for a sub-group of hunters that made up less than 3% of the hunting public.

Sounds like a sweetheart deal to me!

 

[G00SE]

There are a few posters on the forum who are divorced from reality, unbridled by truth. My motorless proposal of 2009 recommended increasing the motorless areas from the then current 4.6% of the total WMA acreage to 16.9%. This was based on the 2005 survey done by the DWR. Of the respondents, 27% favored increasing motorless access, while 53% favored rest areas at each WMA, and 70% accessed the marsh using no motors of any kind.

I recommended specific areas to be made motorless only at WMAs with two or more ramp-accessible units, and recommended the smallest areas with boat ramps for motorless restrictions at each WMA. It seemed reasonable then and still does today. Note that excluded the Turpin, despite what someone said.

We saw this coming over 20 years ago. Mud motors increase bird disturbance. Period. Maybe that's why on my last several trips to FB there have been at least three, and up to five mud motors parked at the end of the Turpin. Only three today, but it's a weekday.

But speaking of today, here's one. Don't see many of these in parks:

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We'll see what happens with the new WMA, perhaps they'll implement some forward-looking management measures.

You must not spend much time in parks then. Not surprising since you hate fun. Anyways, Widgeys love GRASS. Guess what’s usually surrounding park ponds… 🤔

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[paddler]

Just waiting for the ban....

 

[paddler]

16.9% of the WMAs reserved for a sub-group of hunters that made up less than 3% of the hunting public.

Sounds like a sweetheart deal to me!

Incorrect. The 70% of waterfowlers who don't use mud motors would benefit from more motorless areas as they wouldn't have to compete with them.

 

[G00SE]

Just waiting for the ban....

Oh boo. Just another notch in the belt. Wait until you see my next screen name

 

[taxidermist]

Oh, there are lots of know-it-alls. But very few that have spent decades trying to cut the public off from public lands.

I thought for sure I was the only member that knows it all🤔 Thanks for ruining my day Vanilla. 🥲

 

[Natural Born Killer]

You can only hunt the east and west edges of the Duchesne without a boat ( the biggest pond on Blackhawk) also the west side of the. 40's 50's and 60's ponds are quite a hike to get to without a canoe,. the east and west side of the 30's is easy to get to. There also are quite a few sinkbox blinds that you can pretty much drive to......in the middle of Blackhawk

 

[Vanilla]

Incorrect. The 70% of waterfowlers who don't use mud motors would benefit from more motorless areas as they wouldn't have to compete with them.

Oh, we’ve been doing this dance for 15 years! I’m old enough to remember how accessible some of those “motorless” areas would have been to anyone not paddling a canoe would be.

Keep being you, JM. You play a great victim. The biggest gaslighter around!