Had some time this weekend to get out to the range for some field testing and on the one hand things went fairly well. I have one of my rifles (.270WIN Mod.700 ADL) that is finally starting to group half decent after MANY range sessions, stock work, new scope base/rings and tweaks to my reloading processes.
I've been loading at book values (Nosler) and have narrowed the optimal charge weight to right around 50.1 - 50.3gr of IMR4831,
trim length of 2.53 (.01 under SAAMI Max),
and a seating depth of C.O.A.L. 3.32 using Accubond 140gr. (CBTO 2.77)
.270WIN,50.1gr IMR4831 @ 100yds (1.25" max spread)
.270WIN, 50.3gr IMR4831 @ 100yds (1" max spread)
So, my next plan is to begin adjusting seating depth to find that perfect distance from the lands in this rifle. I have the Hornady OAL gauge and the modified .270 case. I have also cut a sized case on the neck and have been collecting measurements with it as well to help confirm the OAL gauge findings.
What I'm seeing is that my lands are right at or near 2.97~.01 when measured with either the OAL gauge or my homemade gauge.
I'm very hesitant to use this measurement because it puts the bullet out 0.20 longer than when loaded to the book measurement...that's darn near a quarter inch! Making my COAL 3.54 and greatly reduces the amount of bullet in the case neck which will undoubtedly affect pressure.
A couple observations:
When using the OAL gauge with modified case, I can feel the bullet "catch" on something then break past, almost like either a burr or rough spot in the chamber..I don't get many significant scratches on the bullet but it is definitely rough sliding the bullet forward until it stops at the lands. I tried it on two other .270 rifles and did not feel the same thing. They measured 2.886 (Mod700 BDL) and 2.92 (Rem Mod 783) to the lands respectively.
So, is it safe to load ammo this long? What could cause the rough feeling in the chamber? With SAAMI Min. Chamber specs listed as 2.88, what would cause the ADL to be so far over? Throat erosion?
...and yes, a cartridge loaded to the long length does fit and cycle through the action so magazine length isn't a factor.
Or...maybe I should just leave well enough alone since this is a hunting rifle and I'm at 1" @ 100yd. groups...?
I've been loading at book values (Nosler) and have narrowed the optimal charge weight to right around 50.1 - 50.3gr of IMR4831,
trim length of 2.53 (.01 under SAAMI Max),
and a seating depth of C.O.A.L. 3.32 using Accubond 140gr. (CBTO 2.77)
.270WIN,50.1gr IMR4831 @ 100yds (1.25" max spread)

.270WIN, 50.3gr IMR4831 @ 100yds (1" max spread)

So, my next plan is to begin adjusting seating depth to find that perfect distance from the lands in this rifle. I have the Hornady OAL gauge and the modified .270 case. I have also cut a sized case on the neck and have been collecting measurements with it as well to help confirm the OAL gauge findings.
What I'm seeing is that my lands are right at or near 2.97~.01 when measured with either the OAL gauge or my homemade gauge.

I'm very hesitant to use this measurement because it puts the bullet out 0.20 longer than when loaded to the book measurement...that's darn near a quarter inch! Making my COAL 3.54 and greatly reduces the amount of bullet in the case neck which will undoubtedly affect pressure.

A couple observations:
When using the OAL gauge with modified case, I can feel the bullet "catch" on something then break past, almost like either a burr or rough spot in the chamber..I don't get many significant scratches on the bullet but it is definitely rough sliding the bullet forward until it stops at the lands. I tried it on two other .270 rifles and did not feel the same thing. They measured 2.886 (Mod700 BDL) and 2.92 (Rem Mod 783) to the lands respectively.
So, is it safe to load ammo this long? What could cause the rough feeling in the chamber? With SAAMI Min. Chamber specs listed as 2.88, what would cause the ADL to be so far over? Throat erosion?
...and yes, a cartridge loaded to the long length does fit and cycle through the action so magazine length isn't a factor.
Or...maybe I should just leave well enough alone since this is a hunting rifle and I'm at 1" @ 100yd. groups...?